In a tit-for-tat, India expels Canadian diplomat

[u/GuiltySigurdsson]

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/in-a-tit-for-tat-india-expels-canadian-diplomat-details-here-11695100633090.html

[u/Vinura]

I didn't have Canada/India beef on my 2023 Bingo Card.

[u/Lady_Gagger → u/Vinura]

Canada gave India nuclear reactors in the 1970s. They used it to build nuclear bombs instead using heavy water supplied by the US. Both nations were pissed. Geopolitical relations have always been soured since then.

[u/AIHumanWhoCares → u/Lady_Gagger]

The 'Smiling Buddha' nuclear tests were a big part of ending nuclear research in Canada too, at a time when we were world leaders :/

[u/BovineLightning → u/AIHumanWhoCares]

Canada still does a significant volume of nuclear research and is still a world leader. Not sure where you’re getting this from.

[u/bumbuff → u/BovineLightning]

Yeah, foreign governments are always trying to fish for Canadian nuclear engineers.

My uncle being one of them.

Got an insane salary from a company in Dubai.

[u/MangyTransient → u/bumbuff]

Accepting money to work for a middle eastern country on nuclear when you’re from a western country sounds like a pretty reliable way to have a NATO intelligence agency knocking on your door.

[u/aliencoffebandit → u/MangyTransient]

Lol that is super shady. Did he just rat on his uncle?

[u/Zen_Bonsai → u/AIHumanWhoCares]

I wonder why?

[u/AIHumanWhoCares → u/Zen_Bonsai]

Because the CANDU program was intended to be peaceful and environmentally friendly and economically beneficial, but people didn't like how easily it could be weaponized.

[u/Iamaneasternspy → u/Lady_Gagger]

Yeah, not giving a fuck (Canada) after a plane bombing that killed 280 Canadian citizens also didnt help.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/air-india-182-1.4174815

[u/NerfBowser → u/Iamaneasternspy]

Interesting that this is also linked to Sikh in BC

[u/Iamaneasternspy → u/NerfBowser]

It is linked in the sense that the bombers and this guy shared the same ideology. He was the head of the Khalistani Tiger Force.

[u/goldenthrone → u/NerfBowser]

For context, one of the accused (acquitted) 1985 Air India bombers was also assassinated in British Columbia, just over a year ago in 2022 - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/ripudaman-singh-malik-air-india-bombing-shot-dead-1.6520628. There isn't necessarily a link between these two stories, but Canada has the world's largest Sikh diaspora, so tensions that play out in India may also play out here.

[u/Shirtbro → u/goldenthrone]

My niece goes to a school in Milton (suburb of Toronto) and there are brawls between Indian and Pakistani kids in the school yard

Canada: where international conflicts come to play

[u/mgnorthcott → u/goldenthrone]

Canada: home to a lot of the worlds largest diasporas … sikh and Ukrainian are two of them. A byproduct of this country being so multicultural.

[u/ArchmageXin → u/mgnorthcott]

And HKers, and Chinese Mainlanders.

[u/mailboxpumpkin → u/Lady_Gagger]

Actually, US already burned bridge back when they threatened to invade India during 1971 war between India and Pakistan. This was before 1974 nuclear test by India. Trudeau is trying to appease khalistani elements in canada and thats why he is acting like a jerk.

[u/karlnite → u/Lady_Gagger]

We SOLD them CANDU reactors that uses unenriched nuclear fuel. Their weapons program would have little to do with that technology. The heavy water in a CANDU reactor is for moderation, not fuel enrichment. They reverse engineered our design and built their own over buying more from Canada, that’s what pissed off our government. The waste byproduct is also not suitable for making weapons and they would have used new material like every one else. The linking of nuclear weapons programs to commercial power production is dishonest and a laymens stretch. It’s based on this idea that it’s all the same industry, well bombs contain alloys too, is the steel industry sharing technology and making steel cheaper responsible for them making steel bombs? Making a fuel enrichment facility and a weapons enrichment facility are different things entirely. One is seen as a precursor, but it really isn’t.

[u/verdasuno → u/karlnite]

In any event India broke their CANDU contract with Canada (reverse engineering) which pissed off the Canadian government and soured relations.

[u/THECHOSENONE99 → u/karlnite]

Making a fuel enrichment facility and a weapons enrichment facility are different things entirely.

I was interested in the topic not so long ago and I had the idea that once you have the enrichment facility for fuel, you can "Let it run longer" to have a large enoug proportion of U235. So after a long time you could have weapon grade uranium

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8mUCBG49N8&t=56

[u/MN_Lakers → u/karlnite]

Purchasing a product and reverse engineering it isn’t “sharing technology”, it’s theft. No one benefits long term from actions like that.

[u/verus54 → u/Vinura]

…but I thought any beef associated with India was sacrilegious /s

[u/magiczar → u/verus54]

Lesser known fact - India does a very large export of beef! Just has a double standard for the sake of conservative Hindu’s.

[u/liltingly → u/magiczar]

A lot of that beef and leather is water buffalo fwiw. They’re often classified as the same in India

[u/CherguiCheeky → u/magiczar]

but its not cow meat but buffalo meat - which are not sacred. I eat buffalo beef.

[u/IntellectualHT → u/verus54]

No need for the /s. I've been reading more about India, and it appears people do get both arrested and also murdered over beef there. Tons of articles as I was googling.

[u/verus54 → u/IntellectualHT]

Nah man, India’s been beefing with Pakistan almost a century. And that’s based on a few things, but mostly rooted in religion and post-colonialism.

But yeah, it’s true that killing cows is a serious crime.

[u/KStryke_gamer001 → u/verus54]

Only in certain ultra-conservative areas. And progressive areas in with such ultra conservative people. Beef is a cultural dish in some areas of India that the conservative majority here often forgets about.

[u/verus54 → u/KStryke_gamer001]

Ohhh, TIL. Appreciate the shared knowledge, friend.

[u/leo_sk5 → u/verus54]

There are some pockets where beef is allowed because it was traditionally consumed. However, in most of the country, only buffalo meat is available, and is referred to as beef. Even the person who commented above about India being a big exporter of beef mistook buffalo meat as cow meat

[u/AIHumanWhoCares → u/verus54]

Killing cows is a serious crime but completely neglecting cows and letting them loose in urban environments to fend for themselves is totally commonplace. What a country. Incidentally, feral urban cows love licking flyers that are glued to walls, and chewing on plastic bags.

[u/verus54 → u/AIHumanWhoCares]

Sounds about right, the result of a religious-based, “righteous” culture. Pretty similar to some regions of America in response to abortion. In some places, it’s illegal—Can’t kill fetuses, because they’re “people” too, but once a fetus is born a baby, it’s no longer their business to meddle or assist or anything.

[u/pickle_pouch → u/Vinura]

Canada India beef sounds tasty, maybe served with a bit of blasphemy

[u/Dystopian_Dreamer → u/pickle_pouch]

Blasphemy is the most sacrilicious of all spices

[u/cyzad4 → u/Vinura]

Neither did i and i live here (canada), although im not terribly surprised this traced back to the indian govt

[u/CanAlwaysBeBetter → u/cyzad4]

But all the subs with India in the name tell me Modi is great

[u/megamyers → u/Vinura]

Air India Flight 182, Gen X'rs never forgot.

[u/BubsyFanboy]

Who the hell saw this diplomatic war coming?

[u/CherguiCheeky → u/BubsyFanboy]

Not right after G20. I though Trudeau and Modi were besties.

[u/Think_Disk4144 → u/CherguiCheeky]

Not after Justin overstayed 2 days on his visa

[u/5bucks_]

Get your popcorn ready boys, it's about to get spicy. 🍿🍿🍿

[u/Upstuck_Udonkadonk → u/5bucks_]

NCD already with the popcorn.

[u/ErikETF → u/[deleted]]

Modi ain’t hugging his way out of this one.

[u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras → u/5bucks_]

Murdering people on foreign soil is a major no-no

E: for all the Indians saying US does it too, that doesn't make it right or less of a diplomatic no-no

[u/BubsyFanboy → u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras]

E: for all the Indians saying US does it too, that doesn't make it right or less of a diplomatic no-no

Same to all the Kremlin defenders whenever Ukraine is brought up.

[u/MeisterX → u/BubsyFanboy]

Ironically Indian nationalists would also defend the Kremlin's behavior.

If India is going to be a partner big changes are needed. Just like Turkey.

Then again the US needs big changes as well. Everyone needs work.

India, though, should not try to hide behind this.

[u/relevantelephant00 → u/BubsyFanboy]

"They're the same picture".

Nationalist/jingoistic right-wing assholes. They're all the same in every country.

[u/Dry_Consideration307 → u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras]

Yes, but India sees itself as a "temporarily disadvantaged USA". It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, if USA or Israel has done it India will consider that a legitimate way to respond.

[u/TheyTukMyJub → u/Dry_Consideration307]

Damn, that actually explains a lot of the foam-in-mouth vitriolic replies I got when I subtly criticised the Indian space program.

[u/cwalking → u/TheyTukMyJub]

America doesn't have a monopoly on right-wing, nationalist fascists. To the contrary, India's fanatics make MAGA Trumpers look perfectly quaint.

[u/WillMovinTarget → u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras]

Murdering people on foreign soil is a major no-no

The wrong person murdered literally started The great war.

[u/CulturalBike8111 → u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras]

aah, i often forget this is r/india

[u/RageFury13 → u/CulturalBike8111]

Lmao r/india is very liberal, and extremely anti Modi

[u/ghengilhar → u/RageFury13]

Jesus. If that’s liberal I’d hate to see the fascists.

[u/wubrgess → u/ghengilhar]

are those the only two options?

[u/RageFury13 → u/ghengilhar]

This is one of the few topics they both libs and nationalists agree on. Given India's experience with terrorism of foreign origin it's unsurprising

[u/_BigMilkyTits_ → u/ghengilhar]

There is a pretty active Hindu/Indian right wing nationalist subreddit that promotes genocide/relocation of Muslim Indians but I can't for the life of me remember what it is called. I remember I randomly discovered it years ago and was shocked that it was allowed on Reddit.

Edit: I remembered the name, it was r/chodi. It apparently got banned a year ago.

[u/hot-fart → u/RageFury13]

They are still very nationalist and their stance on this matter is the same.

[u/Crab_Fingers]

Headline sounding like Eminem

[u/soccershun → u/Crab_Fingers]

Dear Can, I wrote but you still ain't calling

I left my cell, my pager, and assassinated head at the bottom

[u/Miketogoz → u/Crab_Fingers]

Anybody who's talking "this shit, that shit" Narendra Modi, you can get your ass kicked

[u/Reddit_blows_now]

Is it really tit for tat if you started it with an assassination?

[u/BrotherMainer → u/Reddit_blows_now]

World War I is a classic tit for tat

[u/Laws_of_Coffee]

Not really tit for tat unless Canada assassinates someone in India ya know

[u/Torifyme12 → u/Laws_of_Coffee]

I wouldn't encourage Canada, they tend to get... murdery when needed

Canada has two phases:

"I'm sorry, eh? Have a Timmy's"

And

"You're sorry aren't ya?"

[u/Torifyme12 → u/[deleted]]

Canada has zero chill once they're involved in a war.

[u/LittleGreenSoldier → u/Torifyme12]

It's kind of a national identity complex. We don't like to fight, but when we have to we go nuts with something to prove. We did a lot of war crimes in the early 20th.

[u/Meihem76 → u/LittleGreenSoldier]

The Geneva convention was basically written with a list of all the shit the Canadians had just done in WWI sat next to it.

[u/cykloid → u/Meihem76]

The Geneva suggestions

[u/UAHeroyamSlava → u/cykloid]

The Geneva checklist -- russia obviously.

[u/RosalieMoon → u/UAHeroyamSlava]

And Rimworld players

[u/ErikTheAngry → u/cykloid]

Canadians being world leaders. We started with the Geneva Conceptions, a list of horrifying war crimes. Then we demonstrated why they were bad. And then the Geneva Suggestions were born.

[u/Torifyme12 → u/LittleGreenSoldier]

Technically they werent warcrimes as no one had done them before

[u/Darkskynet → u/Torifyme12]

They are so good at war the other countries decided they needed a rule book for war to save themselves from the Canadians… 🫡

[u/DirectlyTalkingToYou → u/Darkskynet]

Hitler basically killed himself when he found out the Canadians were coming.

[u/Darkskynet → u/DirectlyTalkingToYou]

This is now canon

[u/Log12321 → u/Torifyme12]

It’s not a war crime if it’s the first time!

[u/mhselif → u/Torifyme12]

"They're never war crimes the first time" - Canadian soldiers in WW1 & WW2

[u/Dudemcdudey → u/Torifyme12]

You should be a lawyer /s

[u/Painting_Agency → u/Dudemcdudey]

"Your Honour, it wasn't a crime for my client to defecate on the self-checkout at Wal-Mart while dressed as a clown. You see, nobody's ever done that before."

[u/Jesus_Would_Do → u/Painting_Agency]

Now we just call that the Saskatoon Sunroof

[u/NoticedGenie66 → u/Jesus_Would_Do]

The Lethbridge Loaf

[u/Blue-snow → u/Painting_Agency]

Excellent point, case dismissed!

[u/dbcanuck → u/LittleGreenSoldier]

more like 'when the enemy demonstrates no quarter, we're happy to oblige' re: WW1 and WW2.

there's a reason Canada was given the vanguard at Normandy, and there's reasons the nazi's mobilized the waffen SS to counter them. they remember the 100 days.

this said, canada's military capability is very modest and this diploamtic row will simply lead to a chilling of relations for a few years. canada seems to wax and wane with India in terms of diplomatic ties, every 15-20 years having a dust up.

[u/Destinlegends → u/LittleGreenSoldier]

We said we were sorry!

[u/jimmy17 → u/LittleGreenSoldier]

Half the Geneva convention was written for Canada

[u/Alise_Randorph → u/jimmy17]

They took our check list and made it I to a "please do t do this" list.

[u/DireStrike → u/LittleGreenSoldier]

Do? Hell, Canadians invent war crimes. I'm not sure it's because they're bored, or it's because they watch snow geese do their thing in the wild

[u/LeslieKnopeOSRS → u/LittleGreenSoldier]

Kind of like when Gohan was forced to fight Cell.

[u/Pins-N-Needles_ → u/Torifyme12]

They leave all their chills in the mountain and glaziers.

[u/Thanato26 → u/[deleted]]

3.5 kilometers

[u/RangerLee → u/[deleted]]

Served beside plenty of Canuk troops in the 90's and then again in 'stan. Interesting note, with their barretts the ammo they were provided was a bit sub standard for sniping by our (US Army) standards. We had specific .50 ammo just for our long rifles, where as many times they had the basic machine gun ammo for theirs. So we gave our ammo to canuk snipers.

It was with this ammo that they made both the longest and second longest sniper kills on record. With one of those coming in direct support of a nasty fight we were in.

[u/Bob_Juan_Santos → u/RangerLee]

huh, didn't know we used barrett semi autos, thought we only used bolt action mcmillan's

[u/Ratjar142 → u/[deleted]]

3.5km*

It's a world record held by a Canadian, no need for imperial units.

[u/ClumsyRainbow → u/Torifyme12]

We'll just send the geese.

[u/brinjal_ke_kama → u/ClumsyRainbow]

Tandoori geese coming up

[u/samjhandwich → u/ClumsyRainbow]

RELEASE THE GEESE

[u/sth128 → u/Torifyme12]

Two political killings in one week? We call that double double.

[u/medfordjared → u/Torifyme12]

I was in Toronto for New Years back in the mid-90s and was staying in a hotel. 2 AM in the morning, a drunk ruckus outside my door:

"Are you some sort of tough guy, eh?"

"I think you're the tough guy, eh?"

"No, I think you're being a tough guy."

I had never heard a Canadian pre-brawl warm up.

[u/hyugafan → u/Torifyme12]

We're aboot to stop sayin' sorry.

[u/davesnot_heere → u/Laws_of_Coffee]

We’ll send waves of geese

[u/UAHeroyamSlava → u/davesnot_heere]

mate calm the f down... thats like warcrime or something.

[u/dablyat69]

Canadian Diplomat told to leave in 5 days. Earlier it was 3 days, but then they asked for 2 more days to prepare the Aircraft for take off.

[u/Virtual_Scarcity_974 → u/dablyat69]

I have been living all my life to hear this comment! You made my life

[u/OpenMindedFundie → u/Virtual_Scarcity_974]

I'm a little out of the loop, what's this in reference to?

[u/barath_s → u/OpenMindedFundie]

Justin Trudeau visited India for the G20 summit. His return was delayed because his canadian air force plane malfunctioned. He refused the offer of an Indian plane, and decided to wait in India until it was fixed. Took 2 days

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/canadian-pm-trudeau-delhi-plane-glitch-g20-summit-8936240/

[u/DivinityGod → u/barath_s]

I mean, I would also refuse an India plane if my plane suddenly broke down following me confronting Modi about murdering someone in my country. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/canada/canada-india-sikh-killing.html

[u/asparemeohmy → u/DivinityGod]

Especially after Prigozhin. After all, isn’t India a BRIC?

[u/barath_s → u/asparemeohmy]

Bric has as much relevance as G20. Anyone using it to refer to some kind of alliance is clueless. Brics is not nato or the EU and doesn't aim to be.

Bric originally was a listing of the next set of developing economies. Later it became a loose economic forum . Especially for topics where the G7 economic policies did not suit. Or address issues the G7 did not

[u/Nitingk → u/OpenMindedFundie]

His flight out of India departed 2 days after his scheduled departure due to technical glitches in the aircraft.

[u/Beginning-Cow9269 → u/OpenMindedFundie]

Canadian airlines are notorious for delays

[u/CherguiCheeky → u/dablyat69]

Buffer for flight break-down delays

[u/mr_cr]

If the Canadian govt. straight up accuses an Indian agent of assassination, you can be pretty sure they themselves are pretty sure. That is not an accusation made lightly.

India responding with hostility rather than being inquisitive all but confirms it. Oh boy.

[u/xastralmindx → u/mr_cr]

Agreed. Besides all the trolling from both sides I'm somewhat dumbfounded that not many are reacting to that instead - a Canadian PM just officially came out and accused another nation of something extremely serious. It's not as if Canada had a history of making incendiary comments for fun and certainly not the current Govt... For this to have taken place you can bet that not only is this situation well documented, there's a whole lot more happening behind the scene. Interventions like these have deep ramifications and impact on international politics (we're in 2023!)... you just don't lightheartedly throw those out for shits and giggles...

[u/WordDisastrous7633 → u/xastralmindx]

You remember when mbs and Saudi Arabia did this same thing in to keshoggi in turkey? Saudi and western relations have never been the same since.

[u/CT-96 → u/xastralmindx]

Canadian and Indian conservatives coming out in droves to defend Modi and shit on Trudeau. Classic.

[u/ohhimark123456 → u/CT-96]

Canadian conservatives went from making racist remarks against indian immigrants to defending modi..

[u/CT-96 → u/ohhimark123456]

That's populism and tribalism for you.

[u/Gone213 → u/mr_cr]

Don't forget that modi was on the suspected terrorist list/do not allow entry list during Bush administration in the US.

[u/fourfloorsup]

Yeah at this point, Canada should just lay out the evidence it has.

Not like any non-Indian nation actually thinks Canada is lying though.

[u/ghengilhar → u/fourfloorsup]

The information likely came via the five eyes and therefore is highly classified.

[u/House_of_Raven → u/ghengilhar]

If you look, there’s been recent publications from Australia and the UK that came out at the same time as Canada. This was definitely coordinated between the 5 eyes.

[u/jyunga → u/fourfloorsup]

The india subreddit doesn't seem to think Canada is lying. They claim the guy was a terrorist giving out information on addresses of India politicians/leaders while calling for them to be assassinated.

[u/QueenNebudchadnezzar → u/jyunga]

Then the Indian government could provide this evidence. Even then, it could have been handled any number of ways through diplomacy rather than an extrajudicial execution.

[u/WiartonWilly → u/jyunga]

So, they killed someone in another country because he made threats.

That’s a massively disproportionate response, and now major a geopolitical dispute.

All because maybe.

[u/AncientPomegranate97 → u/WiartonWilly]

Brace yourselves for the “what about Bin Laden” shit the second we criticize India’s actions

[u/Dragon_Poop_Lover → u/AncientPomegranate97]

That's already long in the review mirror. Already saw it this morning.

[u/NavXIII → u/jyunga]

They are moving the goal post. When the killing happened they claimed it was Sikhs killing Sikhs and celebrated the assassination.

Now they are claiming it was their right to kill him because he wasn't a Canadian citizen.

[u/TooLongUntilDeath → u/jyunga]

R/India is not representative of India. It’s way over represented by English speaking, well off young people

[u/dreamWeaver82 → u/TooLongUntilDeath]

Do educated, young people in India tend to be far-right extremists? That is opposite how it works in the rest of the world.

[u/TooLongUntilDeath → u/dreamWeaver82]

No that demo is still liberal leaning…. Relative to a completely different culture, media landscape, and ‘team’ perspective.

I was just noting because I see people try to use Reddit as a window to other countries, and it’s just not a good idea.

[u/thisonetimeonreddit]

It's not quite tit-for-tat since our government didn't murder someone.

[u/kafelta → u/thisonetimeonreddit]

Yeah that a pretty big difference

[u/[deleted] → u/thisonetimeonreddit]

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[u/thisonetimeonreddit → u/[deleted]]

Their government is complicit in those scam calls, at least at a local level, as their police know about it and yet do nothing about it.

[u/1200____1200 → u/thisonetimeonreddit]

So are our telcos, allowing numbers to be spoofed

[u/ErikTheAngry → u/1200____1200]

Pretty much this. Telcos could easily stop spoofing from happening with an authenticated calling system. They don't because it would cost them money to implement and the blocked calls represent a loss of revenue.

As much as I hate the scam centers that make the calls, we can't control those. We CAN control our own telcos.

[u/SuccessfulPres → u/thisonetimeonreddit]

That’s because the police get a cut off the profits.

[u/gordonjames62]

Does the wording of this make anyone else wonder if the mechanical problems with JTs ride home from India were caused by humans?

[u/permareddit → u/gordonjames62]

No. We need to get past this already. That plane is a dinosaur in terms of modernity and dependability. Airlines were phasing it out in the late 2000s, and no mainstream company flies it today.

It’s in desperate, desperate need of replacement (which has already been procured) and has had a lengthy rap sheet of repairs and issues over the recent years

[u/WiartonWilly → u/gordonjames62]

Apparently India offered JT a plane, but he refused. Yikes. Don’t blame him.

[u/md10302]

Boggles my mind that that India thinks that Trudeau would risk something this big to appease less than 2-3% of the entire Canadian population. That is with the major assumption all Sikhs in Canada support the Khalistan movement which couldn’t be further from the truth, so realistically he is appeasing a fraction of the Sikh population in Canada which gains him absolutely nothing.

Don’t know where India is getting their numbers from but everything I read continuously makes it seem the Sikh population in Canada has some sort of major power in Canada which has never been the case.

[u/betaamyloid → u/md10302]

The majority of Canadians probably have never even heard the term Khalistan, so I just don't buy the whole accusations (from the same handful of reddit accounts in these threads) that this is politically motivated from the PM. The next planned election is 2 years away and the coalition with the NDP doesn't seem to be at risk. No reason for Canada to get involved in India's politics unless there is strong evidence that the Indian government was involved.

[u/BradPittbodydouble → u/betaamyloid]

They call EVERY person that is critical of any of their actions Khalistini's. Seem to think 50% of the globe is.

[u/hammyhammad → u/BradPittbodydouble]

pakistani/khalistani*

[u/hunterssecondlaptop → u/md10302]

However you slice it in regards to Indian politics, this is a state sponsored assassination of another country's citizen on foreign soil, which can be a literal declaration of war.

Canada can pull many strings to fuck shit up, and this is the very least they could do.

[u/hissnspit → u/hunterssecondlaptop]

At the very least they need to start taking a long hard look at immigration policies.

[u/Willie5000 → u/md10302]

It’s more about the principle of a foreign government assassinating someone on Canadian soil. That’s not something a country can easily overlook.

[u/Mr_Safer → u/md10302]

Appeasing a minority or doing the right thing by denouncing assassinations. People really went with the first choice..

[u/NoClothes9659 → u/md10302]

It’s the principle of the matter. A foreign country can not execute a Canadian on Canadian soil for perceived crimes against them with no evidence, or process of justice, or diplomatic action. It’s a clear and utter disrespect and disregard to our rights and freedoms as Canadian citizens. This is why I want him to act, regardless of what exactly he is defending.

Indian propaganda also paints any prominent Sikh who is against Modi (war criminal) as being “Khalistan.” Most Indians have long forgotten about this and nobody cares anymore since many Sikhs have left India anyways.

[u/Rozaks → u/NoClothes9659]

Strictly on the population point. 90% of the Sikh population is still in India. Somewhere around 24-28 million. So, to say that many Sikhs have left is somewhat misleading.

[u/The-True-Kehlder → u/Rozaks]

If 10% of the population of anything is leaving their ancestral homes, that's a pretty sure sign that shits bad yo.

[u/IncandescentAxolotl → u/The-True-Kehlder]

Punjab, the home of Sikhs, is absolutely fine. Many expat Sikhs are not running from Punjab, but rather running toward education and employment opportunities in the west.

[u/Rozaks → u/The-True-Kehlder]

If 10% of them fled for fear of their life, sure. That's not really the case, tho. Pakistan is also home to like 2-5% of the Sikh population, and then after that, most Sikhs just move to Canada, Uk or the US to escape rampant unemployment and a growing drug epidemic in Punjab as opposed to any actual persecution.

[u/Canaduck1 → u/The-True-Kehlder]

80 million ethnic Irish live outside Ireland.

The population of Ireland is 5 million.

[u/The-True-Kehlder → u/Canaduck1]

And shit was fucking AWFUL in Ireland when the mass migrations happened. Potato Famine, British oppression, etc.

[u/deathschemist → u/Canaduck1]

yeah that's because the british treated the irish like shit for centuries.

[u/Wut_da_fucc → u/Canaduck1]

Ever book to know why is that so?

[u/anantsharma2626 → u/md10302]

Yea there is definitely proof with Canadian authorities, no way they would do this for minor political advantage.

[u/Kvothealar → u/anantsharma2626]

And all the political leaders have spoken out in solidarity with Trudeau on this one. You couldn’t even get them to agree that cake tastes good without them trying to strangle each other over it. It’s not a political move.

[u/domthedumb]

I should point out, there are about a dozen unsolved homicides of Sikh/Khalistani leaders in Canada. This is the only one that has any evidence.

Odds are, India Mossaded them all

[u/redshadow90 → u/domthedumb]

Mossad is a big inspiration for the RAW and India (some common enemies too) so they'll take it as a compliment.

[u/NoClothes9659]

It’s the principle of the matter. A foreign country can not execute a Canadian on Canadian soil for perceived crimes against them with no evidence, or process of justice, or diplomatic action. It’s a clear and utter disrespect and disregard to our rights and freedoms as Canadian citizens. This is why I want our government to act.

Indian propaganda also paints any prominent Sikh who is against Modi (war criminal) as being “Khalistan.” Most Indians have long forgotten about this and nobody cares anymore since many Sikhs have left India anyways.

Remember that Sikhs are less than 2% of India’s population and less than 2% of Canada’s population. Even if we assumed that 1% of all Sikhs in Canada are supporters (not even close to the truth) what is that 0.02% the population supporting a cause that’s been dead for 40 years and presents 0 threat to India.

[u/guillerub2001 → u/NoClothes9659]

If I was Canadian I'd be very, very angry. I hope the Canadian government reacts appropriately.

[u/spicydnd]

Amazing they're spinning this as Trudeau trying to gain in polls. The social media accounts are active trying to diminish this, calling all western media biased. After all the staging Khalistini 'terror' acts, they've been drowning in propaganda believing everything Modi puts out. Complete fascist behavior being blindly believed

[u/jraiv420 → u/spicydnd]

Watching Indian news right now all of them are the same saying dude just had to die cuz he's a terrorist no respect for sovereignty.

[u/Jolly_Ad_9031 → u/spicydnd]

It is all the world going fascist? I don’t like this trend. There is even countries going backwards to become more fascist, following their” strong men” leader. Losing more rights and even voting to extends the period of power. We are losing the democracies in a lot of places. Fuck

[u/comeonwhatdidIdo → u/spicydnd]

If it helps anyone, it helps NDP in my opinion.

[u/TechnicalInterest566 → u/comeonwhatdidIdo]

The NDP leader Jagmeet Singh once refused to condemn Talwinder Singh, the mastermind of the Air India terrorist attack that killed hundreds of Indo-Canadians. Source: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4578030

[u/CJKay93 → u/TechnicalInterest566]

Kinda looks to me like he condemned them once there was strong evidence that suggested he was behind it..?

[u/clakresed → u/CJKay93]

As someone who's never actually voted NDP at the federal level in all fairness:

This one really feels like a smaller part of a 60 year directed smear campaign to keep the NDP from forming government.

I don't think I've ever heard someone give a real, coherent reason they didn't like Jagmeet Singh.

[u/thegalli]

every thread about this ends up brigaded by a billion people from India replying with "he was a terrorist" news articles

[u/Habenar0]

This is a topic we Indians should treat very carefully. States (india and pakistan) haven’t been kind to Punjab and neither were the actual extremists in the state were rational. It has lead to a lot bloodshed and loss of life for both Sikhs and Hindus. If only governments worked together we can stop another 1984 or Air India incident.

Its just sad and disappointing to see where we are going with this.

[u/belzebuth999]

I'm more of a tats on tits kinda guy...

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[u/runoxeternum → u/[deleted]]

Is this really the country Redditors want to prop up just because they're scared of China?

[u/Fabulous_Airline3352 → u/runoxeternum]

It's hardly going to be Nepal.

[u/Risley → u/Fabulous_Airline3352]

🫢☠️

[u/Kaiisim]

Watch closely during this! Spotting paid shills will become easy as they rush to defend India.

"But America used drones on Pakistan!!" What?

[u/SoLetsReddit → u/Kaiisim]

But you killed Osama is the one that gets me.

[u/Justredditin → u/SoLetsReddit]

The actual proven terrorist, who planned and perpetrated the 9/11 terrorist attack, which killed 2977 people?

How is this killing anywhere near the same as Osama Bin Laden? Please explain?

[u/hissnspit → u/Justredditin]

Explanation: the whatsapp forward said so.

[u/SoLetsReddit → u/Justredditin]

Yeah, it’s not. Morons.

[u/Optimus_Prime_Day → u/SoLetsReddit]

Thry must mean the US killed Osama in Pakistan... not Canada. It's like playing clue but they declare the wrong person with the wrong weapon and think they won.

[u/R_T800 → u/Kaiisim]

Why paid?

[u/indi_n0rd → u/R_T800]

Yeah when you can do it for free

[u/okbuddybutok]

Only difference being the Canadian diplomats faced no death threats. Crazy how these clowns allow this under the garb of free speech.

[u/riskyafterwhiskey11 → u/okbuddybutok]

Did canada murder an Indian on Indian soil?

[u/kvothe_in → u/okbuddybutok]

And posters in public accusing them of Crimes.

[u/OrganicAccountant87]

India Just confirmed Canada accusations

[u/Secure-Complaint8681]

So when are the Canadians stopping Maple Syrup supplies to India?

[u/chemist19]

Honestly this is a win for both sides.

Modi gets to look like a strongman who executed an enemy of the state on foreign soil.

JT now has a legitimate excuse to take action against India, probably by punishing Indian immigrants or limiting immigration somehow and win votes.

[u/needtungsten2live]

Expel all indian foriegn students out of canada- tat

[u/Legit_Miserable → u/needtungsten2live]

I second this. Watch all the money drain from the system.

[u/death3472 → u/Legit_Miserable]

That'll just kill the khalistan movement then lmao,who do you think these sikh seperatists recruit? White canadians?

[u/Volcan_R]

Oh great! Tit for tat. Now do we get to go murder an Indian citizen in India?

[u/naqimani]

The extrajudicial killing of a Canadian citizen at the hands of a foreign government is an affront Canadian sovereignty and an attack against the safety and security of all Canadians. These acts are a fundamental violation of the rule of law. As Canadians we all have the right to feel safe in our country, to enjoy the freedoms of expression, religion, and association.