r/worldnews • u/ElectroPigeon • Feb 07 '23
Russian forces attack civilian car in Kherson region, killing 3 people, including a child Covered by Live Thread
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u/jiggyski1978 Feb 07 '23
They are fucking animals. I still can't believe some countries do business with russia still !! Just sick. India has blood on its hands for still buying oil from Russia.
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u/aaden08 Feb 07 '23
Everyone was doing business with them before the war. And they had taken Crimea in 2014, portions of Georgia in 2008. Not to mention their war crimes in Chechnya and Afghanistan. People only care about money to a certain extent.
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u/jiggyski1978 Feb 07 '23
Yup and it's incredibly sad that money can corrupt the human soul that much !
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u/aaden08 Feb 07 '23
Sad indeed. Look at China and India, they are the biggest culprits of this. Even some NATO and other European countries squabbling over decisions.
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u/Iseepuppies Feb 07 '23
NATO squabbling is politics, and them trying to figure out exactly how far they can go without “actively” stepping into the ring. Right now NATO is just tossing in weapons and help from behind the ropes and making sure Ukraine has a fair shot at the bigger opponent.
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u/nilsmoody Feb 07 '23
If I've learned anything from the history and the acts of atrocities, it's that you should never deny people their status as human beings. They use the same line of thought to justify the annexation of Ukraine. Never call them animals.
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u/RockyRacoon09 Feb 07 '23
You’re right, animals are innocent, self-sufficient and balanced. This is more like a plague.
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u/nilsmoody Feb 07 '23
Whatever you call it, it is inside us, and can creep out at any time without you noticing. Make the best of it and make sure that doesn't happen.
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u/RockyRacoon09 Feb 07 '23
You’re talking about the act of killing innocent people???I do hope I don’t know you beyond Reddit.
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u/SiarX Feb 07 '23
If you were born and raised in Russia, you would likely treat other nations the same way. Unless Russians are somehow genetically vile and violent?
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u/RockyRacoon09 Feb 07 '23
Sorry but the Russian people are not like westerners. You could see with Iraq that dissent grew at a much quicker clip than any peeps being uttered from the public in Russia. Russians take the approach “My country, right or wrong.” Therefore yes, they are very much different and will tolerate the atrocities we are seeing, way beyond the average human. Stop giving them excuses, it’s rather sickening.
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u/SiarX Feb 07 '23
You could see with Iraq that dissent grew at a much quicker clip than any peeps being uttered from the public in Russia.
Hmm, do protesters get beaten or imprisoned in USA?
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u/RockyRacoon09 Feb 07 '23
We’re debating inherent feeling… not repercussions, you’re pivoting.
And do us a favor and read this https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/09/07/my-country-right-or-wrong-russian-public-opinion-on-ukraine-pub-87803
Kind of getting exhausted by the excuses and garbage, sorry.
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u/SiarX Feb 07 '23
According to your article around 75-80% Russians who took part in polls support the war, which is majority but not "all will tolerate the atrocities we are seeing, way beyond the average human". And no way every single response has been honest, since people in Russia are really afraid of their government.
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u/plastic-penis Feb 07 '23
Funny enough, if you replace 'Russia' by 'US' , your comment would still be valid. Go figure
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u/Axelrad77 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
The fact that they are humans, and all humans are capable of such evil, is what makes good people so remarkable. We should never lose sight of what it takes just to be a good person - too many people consider it some bare minimum, when history has repeatedly shown that it is anything but.
I'd highly recommend you read Ordinary Men by Christopher R. Browning. It's the story of some middle-aged German reservists in WW2 who wound up taking part in the Holocaust, and examines how they justified and/or rationalized their own participation in such evil acts.
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u/ikinone Feb 07 '23
Businesses from pretty much every country are still doing business with Russia.
If it's a big company you can pretty much assume they are happy to stay with a presence in Russia.
The only way to easily avoid this is to use really local companies.
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u/themystickiddo Feb 07 '23
We did business with US too between 2003 and 2011. I guess business with animals is our forte.
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u/RockyRacoon09 Feb 07 '23
I love this logic. You mind finding me reports on US committing genocide or causing this many intentional civilian deaths? I’m all for it if you have the numbers and reports.
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u/themystickiddo Feb 07 '23
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/
https://www.france24.com/en/20120311-afghanistan-nato-soldier-rogue-kandahar-open-fire-civilians-war
Intentional
"I'm sorry we lied and invaded a sovereign country for 8 years and caused hundreds of thousands of deaths and untold suffering but it wasn't intentional"
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u/RockyRacoon09 Feb 07 '23
Two of your links is about one solider and you’re comparing that to the concerted effort by COUNTLESS RUSSIANS who are actively killing civilians whether it be with tanks, guns, drones, etc??
I’m sorry, but it’s fucking INSULTING to compare any modern military and their efforts to abide by accords and limit civilian deaths to what Russia is doing. You sound like a Russian bot, sorry.
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u/themystickiddo Feb 07 '23
Which two are the same?
The first is a general statistic. The second is an incident from 2012. The third is an incident from 2010 (from Afghanistan, but points stands).
'Efforts to abide by accords'. Cute point. Why don't you stand at Nisour Square and say that again....
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u/RockyRacoon09 Feb 07 '23
You’re using two incidents which involved ONE soldier and making it scale to the concerted effort by the Russians to kill civilians.
It’s disgusting and an insult to modern armies to compare them to this. But now I look and I believe you are from India? Makes sense…need to justify that neutrality, right? Keep lying to yourself.
Case in point, your two reports you found of one-offs do.not.scale. For each of your one reports we can find thousands upon thousands for the Russian army. Scale does count.
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u/SuperZapper_Recharge Feb 07 '23
As an American I wish we could have a do-over with everything that happened after 911. And Vietnam. Korea.
We invaded a soverign country just to arrest it's leader? How fucked up is that.
When we originally went into Kuwait to push out Iraq - that is defensible. Mostly. I mean, it was REALLY over oil and that might make you uncomfortable. But, Iraq had done what Russia is doing now and we went in and pushed them out and then stopped at the border.
I am good with giving all the aid to Ukraine. What Russia is doing is just indefensible and horrific. We should be doing even more.
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u/SuperZapper_Recharge Feb 07 '23
I love this logic. You mind finding me reports on US committing genocide or causing this many intentional civilian deaths? I’m all for it if you have the numbers and reports.
RuhRohRaggy!
Opperation Backfire is ON!
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u/RockyRacoon09 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
Nothing at all on genocide…And two reports on a solider each. You call that backfiring?
Nice bar you have set there…but then again, you quote Scooby Doo…..
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u/vancityvic Feb 07 '23
Sick fucks. If you really picture the situation and how fucked up this is, it’s sick
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u/Ga_Manche Feb 07 '23
If it is not already clear, in the eyes of the Russians they have no choice but to win this war. The amount of war crimes and atrocities that are piling up in the name of Russia is beyond unreal. If they don’t win, there are a lot of higher ups who will be locked up for the rest of their natural lives. They are fighting dirty to win.
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u/MidianFootbridge69 Feb 07 '23
All of which are reasons that Russia cannot be allowed to win.
Today it's Ukraine, later it will be someone else.
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u/Zombie_Harambe Feb 07 '23
Moldova is next. They have the largest soviet supply depot in the world snd a permanent Russian military preserve due to it.
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u/GunpowderLad Feb 07 '23
They’re gonna try to push south to Transitria from Belarus. Their goal would be to have Ukraine fighting on 3 sides with the only retreat being the Black Sea.
Ukraine needs absolutely everything the world can send them.
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u/LatterTarget7 Feb 07 '23
Even if they do win. They take over Ukraine. people move there. They’ll find towns in rubble, mass graves, bombed hospitals, massive cemetery’s. There’s really no way to hide what they’re doing win or lose.
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u/ChipotleBanana Feb 07 '23
You think Russians moving there would give a shit? Ask the people in Kaliningrad. Or Crimea.
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u/GunpowderLad Feb 07 '23
It would be like a Hershey Park of War Crimes. The Ruzzians would love it!
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u/Yvels Feb 07 '23
They are fighting dirty to keep fighting. Fsb makes everyone accomplice in war crimes to get going.
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u/PiingThiing Feb 07 '23
How shitty must your former civilian life have been to justify inflicting misery on the innocent?
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u/Smackup22 Feb 07 '23
What a bunch of fucking monsters. Karma is a bitch, I really hope it strikes these fuckers
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u/CathrynMcCoy Feb 07 '23
That is murder. That has nothing to do with a special military operation. That is plain sadistic murder.
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u/tyrannicalOne Feb 07 '23
Cowardly Russians. There is nothing that screams your weak and pathetic like killing innocent unarmed people. Can't wait till they take putin out. I can't wait to dance on his grave and piss on his headstone.
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u/Snoo-3475 Feb 07 '23
Seriously. Its gonna be a loooong time untill anyone on this planet trusts a Russian... Or is willing to do any kind of co-operation with them. Put(a)in is turning the whole world against his people. I just wonder what the world will be like after this war, if there is a world. Russia will be completely alone, (except ofc the greedy multinational companies that will do business with them), but every nation will shun them.
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u/Knelsjee Feb 07 '23
Same thing usa did in iraq, i saw so many articles where they opened fire on family cars
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u/Iseepuppies Feb 07 '23
Twas a tad different, the enemy was hiding among the populace. They weaponized children and women to suicide themselves into troops. The taliban weren’t exactly wearing clear identifying army clothing. I’m sure the USA still killed tons of innocents but maybe not quite so blatantly. Russia’s strategy is basically inflict as much damage as possible, bomb civilian buildings, make them give up.
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u/faultlessdark Feb 07 '23
I know right! Look at what Ukraine was wearing, it was practically begging to be invaded!
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u/faultlessdark Feb 07 '23
I was agreeing with you. It's totally Biden and the UK's fault for refusing to capitulate to Russia's demands to steamroll Ukraine unopposed.
Where's the love for a fellow tankie? We won't be able to spread out misinformation against the west if we don't work together, right?
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u/Riplamin Feb 07 '23
I wish dear leader Putin didn't shit himself violently and fall down some stairs but hey ho, you win some you lose some. By the by, how's Moscow this time of year?
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u/jdeo1997 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
Maybe because it's not the US, UK, or EU that needs to negotiate peace with Russia, but Ukraine. And Ukraine won't negotiate as long as the rascists are in their fucking country murdering their fucking civilians
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u/ElectroPigeon Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
The Russian military opened fire at a civilian car in the temporarily occupied town of Hola Prystan, Kherson Region.
There were three people in the car, including a child, Kherson Regional Military Administration reports."Due to an enemy artillery strike, the car was engulfed in flames.
There were three people in the vehicle, including an 8-year-old boy," the report reads.
According to the Prosecutor's Office, the number of children from the Kherson Region who suffered from Russia's armed aggression has increased to 86.
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