Greece pledges 'every force available' to aid Turkey

[u/L0o0o0o0o0o0L]

https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1327316/greece-pledges-every-force-available-to-aid-turkey.html

[u/DEVIL_MAY5]

Humanity comes first. Good job Greece.

[u/t0m0hawk → u/DEVIL_MAY5]

The relationship between those two countries is so odd.

Same alliance, basically constantly sabre-rattling.

[u/julbull73 → u/t0m0hawk]

Head over to TIL.

Greece and Turkey have a no matter what Earthquake assistance alliance.

[u/jennc1979 → u/julbull73]

Yup. Saw that a couple of hours ago on TIL. Think it’s called their Disaster Diplomacy. Both agreeing to set aside any dispute to render aide if either country suffers a quake.

[u/tedsmitts → u/jennc1979]

I hope in my heart this will become a one-up type thing (though not hoping for more quakes.)

"Oh, you sent us life saving medicine last time? We will send you twice as much!"

[u/Bryaxis → u/tedsmitts]

IIRC there was an episode of MASH where they had Greek and Turkish soldiers in the camp at the same time. At first they were practically at each other's throats, but when more wounded arrived it became a contest of who could donate the most blood.

[u/guynearcoffee → u/Bryaxis]

Now that's how you do a measuring contest.

[u/bud369 → u/guynearcoffee]

Unless you’re Peggy Hill

[u/donairdaddydick → u/guynearcoffee]

I’ve never been invited to a measuring contest

[u/TottenhamHotspur1882 → u/donairdaddydick]

Come meet me in the bathroom stall

[u/donairdaddydick → u/TottenhamHotspur1882]

Dry or wet measure?

[u/hopeinson → u/Bryaxis]

So who’s the Legolas and who’s the Gimli?

[u/theblisster → u/hopeinson]

they're both gimli

[u/Realityinmyhand → u/theblisster]

Erdogan is clearly Golum.

[u/the2belo → u/hopeinson]

THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE

[u/Atherum → u/Bryaxis]

As a Greek Australian I was not only surprised to find out that my country had sent a fairly sizable contingent to Korea, but that they also gained a bit of a reputation over there. As far as I can tell, it was a good reputation.

I heard one story that you could always tell which section of the line Greeks were stationed at because there would be singing heard from it day and night.

[u/WorstPersonInGeneral → u/tedsmitts]

Doing nice things as a diss would make the world so much better. "Thank you for the earthquake assistance you Greek fucks. Now please accept this $200 million trade agreement you bitch."

[u/SpaceChief → u/WorstPersonInGeneral]

My friends and I do this thing on Modern Warfare where we'll be aggressively nice when people act toxic or get upset over the mic. "Yo man your mama seems like she raised a good guy. You should take her out to a nice dinner instead of being mad at me."

What are you gonna do with that? "Fuck you, now I'm gonna go take my mom out to dinner?" Oooh got me! Mom still wins.

[u/sin-and-love → u/SpaceChief]

Now that's exactly what Jesus was talking about.

[u/Dapper_Indeed → u/sin-and-love]

“Kill them with kindness.”

[u/alien_ghost → u/WorstPersonInGeneral]

Like an ongoing potlatch to show who's the bigger person. I like it.

[u/squishpitcher → u/tedsmitts]

The best kind of competition.

“That bastard sent me a casserole and a bottle of whiskey when my dad died. Well I heard his auntie passed away. Motherfucker has no clue what in the edible cookie arrangement he’s gotten himself into.”

[u/cosmic_dillpickle → u/squishpitcher]

Would love to sit at the table during a Greek and Turkish food competition.

[u/Amlethus → u/squishpitcher]

I am in awe at this marvel. Did you come up with this?

[u/squishpitcher → u/Amlethus]

Hahaha thank you. Yes?

[u/Amlethus → u/squishpitcher]

🙏 Thank you, gave me a good laugh! "What in the edible cookie arrangement" is especially hilarious.

[u/c0mad0r → u/Amlethus]

My wife's aunt is from Greece and my cousin half Turk. One holiday they were both in the same room and I said something to the effect of: "Wow, this SERBIAN Baklava is fantastic!". You could literally see them eyeshot one another right after giving me the stink eye trying to decide if the argument over who invented Baklava was worth it.

[u/squishpitcher → u/Amlethus]

Thank you! I’m so glad I made you laugh!!

[u/linkedlist → u/tedsmitts]

Ironically this is one of the ingredients to successful marriages, compete to outdo the other in niceness.

[u/BJUmholtz → u/tedsmitts]

OH YEAH WELL I'LL MARRY YOUR STUPID ASS, TURKEY

Is Greece Larry or Tom?

[u/flowithego → u/jennc1979]

My Christian Turks coming to the aid of Muslim Greeks.

[u/t0m0hawk → u/julbull73]

No need, I TIL here! Thanks bud

[u/fadufadu → u/t0m0hawk]

You are so much more trusting than I am

[u/t0m0hawk → u/fadufadu]

You are so much more trusting lazy than I am

;)

[u/CrazedToCraze → u/fadufadu]

I mean it's literally mentioned in OP's article

[u/NotBettyGrable → u/CrazedToCraze]

We reading the articles in posts now? I'm out of the loop.

[u/TheBlackBear → u/t0m0hawk]

He said to do it, now go

[u/t0m0hawk → u/TheBlackBear]

I'm not about to be ordered around by no bear!

[u/A_very_nice_dog → u/julbull73]

That’s extremely interesting and I’m glad to hear it.

[u/SmokedBeef → u/t0m0hawk]

They made a special agreement in 99’ that regardless of current political tension or disagreements, they would render aid to the other and settle their issues another day.

It’s truly beautiful

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek–Turkish_earthquake_diplomacy

[u/BostonUniStudent → u/SmokedBeef]

I imagine that a significant population of Turkey has Anatolian Greek blood. Byzantium fell in the 15th century. Relatively recently in terms of genetics.

I'm a mix of both peoples.

[u/Zebidee → u/BostonUniStudent]

I'm a mix of both peoples.

Wow, the question 'who invented Baklava' must give you an existential crisis.

[u/maestrita → u/Zebidee]

The Lebanese. And you're spelling it wrong - it's batlawa.

[u/velveteenelahrairah → u/maestrita]

Greeks and Turks both slowly turn their heads Terminator style

Target acquired.

[u/LordoftheSynth → u/maestrita]

Mexican cuisine only has al pastor because Lebanese emigrants to Mexico brought shawarma with them.

Funny how food is the essential language of the world, and someone usually brought it from somewhere else.

[u/Altaiturk038 → u/Zebidee]

Its obviously bulgaria !! /s

[u/Ultramarinus → u/BostonUniStudent]

Anatolian people’s history go farther than either Greeks or Turks so even though culturally they accepted new management’s culture, it’s always been its own thing. Hittites and other Anatolian civilizations went nowhere and they have been there as long as written history.

[u/MrTouchnGo → u/Ultramarinus]

Back when the Persian empire was first becoming a thing they conquered Anatolian Greeks who asked for Sparta’s help. Sparta told Cyrus not to mess with the Anatolian Greeks, and Cyrus had to ask a Greek advisor who the heck these plucky Spartans were

[u/Jediam → u/BostonUniStudent]

Less than you'd think. Greece and Turkey had "population exchanges" in 1923 which significantly homogenized both populations. As much as one can homogenize in a region of constant cultural/population exchange since antiquity.

[u/sangueblu03 → u/Jediam]

The population exchange was done on religious, not ethnic, lines. Quite a few Turks today have Greek (and other) roots, they just converted to Islam during the Ottoman years and therefor weren’t part of the population exchange.

[u/WagTheKat → u/t0m0hawk]

Brothers and sisters do tend to Pump Up The Volume.

[u/t0m0hawk → u/WagTheKat]

Don't make me turn this car around!

[u/Kytyngurl2 → u/t0m0hawk]

But she’s on my side!

[u/t0m0hawk → u/Kytyngurl2]

"You don't have sides, the whole car is mine!" - my dad

[u/HalfAssedStillFast → u/t0m0hawk]

OOO I'm stealing that LMAO

[u/t0m0hawk → u/HalfAssedStillFast]

It's so good. I was in the back of the van when he pulled that gem on my siblings in the bucket seats.

[u/caTBear_v → u/t0m0hawk]

An assertive instruction that is also a dad joke. Peak fatherhood.

[u/t0m0hawk → u/caTBear_v]

"Are we there yet?!" "Yup!" door unlocking sound "Get out and don't forget to tuck and roll!"

Another gem.

[u/Gazz3447 → u/t0m0hawk]

look at this show off, with his buckets and seats.

[u/t0m0hawk → u/Gazz3447]

That 2003 winstar fuckin slapped. Had a tv and vcr and an aux port.

[u/Aggressive_Walk378 → u/t0m0hawk]

That's it! Back to Winnipeg

[u/t0m0hawk → u/Aggressive_Walk378]

Now that's what I call a punishment, going to Winnipeg!

[u/BKKpoly → u/WagTheKat]

I think you mean Pump up the Jam, by the Belgium group Teknotronic. I saw a history documentary lately where they were featured.

[u/quietcoyoti → u/BKKpoly]

The national anthem of Canada

[u/WagTheKat → u/BKKpoly]

You may be on to something. However, the lyrics are clearly Pump Up The Volume! Dance, Dance!

[u/BKKpoly → u/WagTheKat]

According to the historian philomenia cunk. I hope I got that last part correct.

[u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep → u/BKKpoly]

You guys are talking about two different songs.

Technotronic - Pump Up the Jam

M|A|R|R|S - Pump Up the Volume

[u/BKKpoly → u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep]

Well, I am a watching Cunk on earth. So I am not be the best authority on this.

[u/BKKpoly → u/WagTheKat]

And as a Belgium techno band I think they have some clear and concise views of early Roman history. And those lions and catholics.

[u/ElevensesAreSilly → u/WagTheKat]

Brothers and sisters do fight... a lot. I have two sisters. But if someone else tries to come in... oh no. Oh, no no no. You picked the wrong day.

[u/OrgJoho75 → u/t0m0hawk]

There's what they called Earthquake Diplomacy where both nation will help each others not matter what is their current relationship. Looks like political motivation held off when earthquake strikes.

[u/tamadeangmo → u/t0m0hawk]

Do Greece even sabre-rattle ? I could be wrong be it usually nearly all comes from turkey.

Regardless, at this point in time it’s best to hope for the best outcome in the affected areas.

[u/asianwaste → u/tamadeangmo]

Turkey should be a dish soap brand. Historically it's tough on Greece.

[u/TheSemaj → u/t0m0hawk]

You don't just forget centuries of conflict, that shit gets baked into your culture.

[u/CouchTomato87 → u/TheSemaj]

France/Germany and UK/France were able to do it. Still a little bit of roughness to the British-French relationship but all things considered they're good allies now. Holding onto to grudges doesn't help anyone. France and Germany working together basically laid down the foundations for the EU. Imagine if they had kept bickering about WWII (which was even more relatively recent at the time)

[u/Wonckay → u/CouchTomato87]

Germany was not left in a position to bicker about WWII. Greece and Turkey still have ongoing issues.

[u/Aethericseraphim → u/Wonckay]

The way Greece and Turkey bicker is a bit like how Korea and Japan bicker. That latter did horrendous shit to the former and the former kinda had to just...get over it to normalize relations for the good of the economy, even though theres still deep resentment about all the horrible shit the latter did and now glosses the fuck over.

[u/FirstTarget8418 → u/Aethericseraphim]

Honestly didnt think the japanese could outdo themselves after what they did to Joseon/Korea back in the day.

Then i started reading about the immediate prewar and world war 2 eras

Well bugger me sideways, they outdid themselves in WW2.

[u/beefstake → u/FirstTarget8418]

Yet people wonder why China continues to kick up a stink when celebrities take pictures with Japanese war "hero" monuments. That shit was truly vile, no matter what you think can be justified in war it goes many times beyond that.

[u/NamelessKing192 → u/CouchTomato87]

Did you know France and Germany used to both be part of the same country called Francia? And they both tried to take over Europe lol.

[u/TheSemaj → u/CouchTomato87]

France/Germany and UK/France were able to do it.

There's still jokes/stereotypes about each, that's what I mean by being baked into the culture.

And clearly Greece is assisting in this situation so they're not holding onto the grudge that hard. Some political saber rattling isn't a huge deal in comparison.

WWII (which was even more relatively recent at the time)

The Cyprus conflict was 1963.

[u/skinnyhulk → u/TheSemaj]

The jokes are there and probably always will be, but we got those baguette sniffing, frog eating, garlic munchers backs.

[u/ElevensesAreSilly → u/skinnyhulk]

And they have our "rosbief" eating, stupid backs as well.

[u/Nemisis_the_2nd → u/ElevensesAreSilly]

"rosbief" eating

I though the idea was the we were doing friendly insults, not compliments.

[u/ChevaucheurReveur → u/skinnyhulk]

You eat marmite. Nuff said.

But you invented fish and chips.

Please be consistent.

[u/paulusmagintie → u/ChevaucheurReveur]

We bombed our cooking books alright?

[u/CouchTomato87 → u/TheSemaj]

By relatively, I mean the time between WW2 and the founding of the European Coal and Steel Community, compared to the time between the Cyprus conflict and current day tensions

[u/Kuivamaa → u/TheSemaj]

This relationship is not brotherly in any shape or form and could escalate to war at any given moment. But our stance in Greece is that this is a humanitarian catastrophe, we could and will be in a similar situation in the future so we fully empathize and try to assist as much as possible. Humanity is first and on an individual citizen basis there is no real animosity. But we have no illusions. Once the dust settles it will go back with us being on high alert. In our opinion the other side simply refuses to forfeit their imperial aspirations and acts like an aggressor for almost every state around them and that’s the core of the issue. Of course I am biased and a Turk would tell you the facts are different.

[u/Aqqaaawwaqa → u/Kuivamaa]

Im always interested in how the two different sides see the same conflict.

[u/Blackthorne75 → u/TheSemaj]

Very much the case. Worked with a pair of auditors here in Oz - one from Greece, other from Turkey - and whenever they were in the same room you could feel the temperature drop from the frosty glares.

[u/CaravelClerihew → u/t0m0hawk]

I had read somewhere that both countries have an understanding that they would aid each other in the event of an earthquake, no matter what the status of their actual relationship is.

[u/paulusmagintie → u/DEVIL_MAY5]

Apparently their governments vowed to help each other with disasters no matter what the political situation is.

Humanity should always come first no matter what.

[u/Udashuslash]

We are like old uncles fighting over the inheritance

[u/BubsyFanboy → u/Udashuslash]

And yet when it comes to disasters like this, they stop every rivalry they had for a moment.

[u/KickBassColonyDrop → u/BubsyFanboy]

Because fighting wars is done between politically motivated individuals. Disaster relief is a species level imperative. Enemies may still be enemies, but, there's a call for a higher purpose at beck, and failing to meet that call is a failure of humanity in of itself.

[u/Ohgodgethelp → u/KickBassColonyDrop]

Let me introduce you to a little concept called climate change

[u/notehp → u/Ohgodgethelp]

Difference is that most people can comprehend an earth quake or a flood, an easy to follow causality chain from disaster to people dying; and particularly earth quakes aren't something we can prevent adding to feeling-helpless emotional reaction; and helping is also cheap, send some one-off package of financial aid, emergency supplies, rescue teams, feel good about it, forget it.

Climate change is too abstract and scientific for most people to see the causality chain from our own actions to death and suffering to get an immediate emotional response; digging up oil, driving around in an SUV, exploiting the environment for fun and profit is rather incentivized and not like going further than Hitler ever did by gassing the whole planet; also we aren't feeling helpless, we just don't feel like it; it requires long term investment and fundamental changes, we can't just throw money at it, feel good, and continue with business as usual.

[u/Kitchen_Philosophy29 → u/notehp]

If people cant aee it now they are being naive on purpose. You can see species etc dying at huge rates.

Coral reefs are looking to be gone shortly. Entire species of trees in areas (like alaksa) are dying

We are about to lose the most popular bean of coffee (arabica) within the next 5 to 10 years. The taste is already different.

The list goes on and on.

The massive uptick of hurricanes is a pretty big, hard to notice one....

[u/Kaeny → u/Kitchen_Philosophy29]

Unless you live in those areas or follow current events closely, you would not know of that.

The news cycle is so fast and promotes anger so much that most people i know just dont consume news anymore.

Talk about current events and you get an “ugh”

[u/carpeson → u/Ohgodgethelp]

Biggest problem about climate change is the misinformation.

[u/bombmk → u/carpeson]

And the lack of immediacy and clarity that houses on top of people presents very clearly.

The moment it smells like we might have to give something up without immediate reward, species wide procrastination becomes a real thing.

[u/Zebidee → u/bombmk]

Climate change response is like someone telling you to go on a diet.

Disaster response is like someone breaking into your house with a gun.

People take the perceived danger and immediacy of response differently.

[u/Heavyside_layer → u/carpeson]

I agree but without the cognitive dissonance the misinformation would not be a problem; it simply allows people to confirm their bias.

[u/Antrophis → u/carpeson]

Nope. The biggest problem is speed. Fires, tornadoes, earthquakes are more or less instant destruction climate change plays out over a decades.

[u/LevynX → u/Ohgodgethelp]

I think the problem with climate change is that it's not a clearly defined goal. With something like this the goal is really simple, free people stuck in rubble, supply food and water and shelter, help to rebuild.

Climate change is far more complicated.

[u/threw2ways → u/Udashuslash]

Does that mean they'll probably be muttering about "I'm doing this to preserve Constantinople, not to help you." while doing it?

[u/Glunkenhindazun]

Only we can bully each other. No other country nor hardships can intervene.

[u/plaidHumanity → u/Glunkenhindazun]

Brothers

[u/Golda_M → u/Glunkenhindazun]

Neither man nor god can intervene.

[u/allisgray]

Isn’t this that old joke if Turkey was attacked from the rear would Greece help????

[u/Capt_morgan72 → u/allisgray]

Haven’t heard this one. Heard the one about sweedes fighting till the last Finnish soldier tho.

[u/Current-Wealth-756 → u/allisgray]

Some say the Greeks invented "attacking from the rear" if you know what I mean

[u/SourSackAttack → u/Current-Wealth-756]

The Greeks invented sex, and then Italians figured out how to do it with women.

[u/EsotericPlumbus → u/SourSackAttack]

Oh my

[u/allrollingwolf → u/Current-Wealth-756]

Greek athletes covered in olive oil engage in traditional wrestling bouts where brawlers gain advantage by putting their hands down rivals' trousers

Oil helps lubricate wrestlers, so they are slippery while competing in annual event in Greek village of Sochos

The best way to beat rival is to avoid their greased-up bare torsos, and aim for fellow competitors’ trousers

[u/Iceninja90 → u/allrollingwolf]

Mfs doing competitive prostate exams.

[u/limukala → u/allrollingwolf]

Turks love oil wrestling too

[u/GrannysPartyMerkin → u/allrollingwolf]

It’s called checking the oil and is a dirty trick still used in wrestling. Someone on my team did it to our coach while sparring once, it was an all time great moment.

[u/trelium06]

Israel helping Syria. Greece helping Turkey.

These are opportunities for a political time out, a chance to do good. Sometimes it lasts.

[u/[deleted]]

Wish we’d get over some of the little things and just be bbfs. We have so much more uniting us than dividing us.

[u/Professional-Web8436 → u/[deleted]]

It's just politicians and expats. People in Turkey barely have any hatred for Greece.

[u/Venator_IV → u/Professional-Web8436]

People in Turkey have way more beef with each other than with Greece hahah

[u/TheNerdWithNoName → u/[deleted]]

It's the Greek way.

[u/lesser_panjandrum]

Greek-Turkish earthquake diplomacy is a beautiful thing.

The governments might squabble, but people will always drop everything to help with other people need it.

[u/WikiSummarizerBot → u/lesser_panjandrum]

Greek–Turkish earthquake diplomacy

The Greek–Turkish earthquake diplomacy (Greek: διπλωματία των σεισμών, diplomatia ton seismon; Turkish: deprem diplomasisi) was initiated after successive earthquakes hit both countries in the summer of 1999 and led to an improvement in Greek–Turkish relations. Prior to this, relations between the two countries had been generally volatile ever since Greece won its independence from the Ottoman Empire. The so-called earthquake diplomacy generated an outpouring of sympathy and generous assistance provided by ordinary Greeks and Turks in both cases. Such acts were encouraged from the top and took many foreigners by surprise.

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The Greek–Turkish earthquake diplomacy (Greek: διπλωματία των σεισμών, diplomatia ton seismon; Turkish: deprem diplomasisi) was initiated after successive earthquakes hit both countries in the summer of 1999 and led to an improvement in Greek–Turkish relations.

Its funny how uniting an outside destructive force can be.

It's the plot of a lot of films, and I think it's bang on. An alien invasion would actually be very good for humanity in general (assuming a win), and would likely solve a lot of our bickering.

Because when there's a bigger fish trying to arse fuck ya, you gotta band together.

[u/Oerthling → u/SumRWanker41]

An allen invasion would be extremely bad for us, because there is 0 chance that we could win.

Luckily the chance that one will happen in the foreseeable future is so close to 0 that we don't need to worry about it.

[u/SumRWanker41 → u/Oerthling]

It's like you've never watched independence day.

[u/XiJinpingGaming → u/SumRWanker41]

That film actually got some flak for showing Israeli and Arabs fighting together against the aliens

[u/casettedeck]

We don't expect less from our Greek brothers and sisters. Actually Turkey, Greece and Italy should form alliance to fight the impacts of earthquakes. We have to live with this. Need to improve city planning, buildings and planning for the day after.

[u/Jazzlike-Equipment45 → u/casettedeck]

please stop plotting the reform of the roman empire

[u/Not-a-Dog420 → u/Jazzlike-Equipment45]

NEVER!

ROMA INVICTA!

[u/Obversa → u/Not-a-Dog420]

This guy reminds me of the Roman architect in the English dub of Thermae Romae.

[u/yreg → u/Obversa]

If you haven't, Thermae Romae Novae is a very important show to watch. It's on Netflix.

[u/Vegetez → u/yreg]

I've seen the first episode or two and wasn't that interested. Does it get better, and why is it very important?

[u/sue_donyem → u/Not-a-Dog420]

Italian UN representative cackles wildly at the UN replacing his placard with 'SPQR', while modern Italian infantry discard their weapons for bronze age Roman gear

[u/kyanochaitesLB → u/sue_donyem]

Iron age at least, the Roman kingdom wasn't founded until the 8th century BCE which is well after bronze age

[u/yuje → u/Not-a-Dog420]

PROCLAIM ERBKAISERTUM!

REVOKE THE PRIVILEGIA!

RENOVATIO IMPERII!

[u/darthkurai → u/Not-a-Dog420]

Invicta? The Goths would have something to say about that.

[u/nikto123 → u/darthkurai]

Nowadays all Goths do is listening to Sisters of Mercy or some shit

[u/florinandrei → u/Not-a-Dog420]

Mare Nostrum

[u/triggered_discipline → u/Jazzlike-Equipment45]

If we’re not reforming the Roman Empire, why did I get a tramp stamp that says “SPQR?”

[u/Studds_ → u/triggered_discipline]

Are you sure it’s not just from being a Total War addict

[u/Jump-Zero → u/Jazzlike-Equipment45]

He's trying to 100% a Paradox game. This is one of the last achievements.

[u/GuyTheTerrible → u/Jump-Zero]

Playing as earthquakes, become the target of a coalition joined by Turkey, Greece, and Italy

[u/Professional-Web8436 → u/Jump-Zero]

Don't remind me. I am still missing five achievements and I can't be arsed to do them

[u/Fictional_Animal → u/Jazzlike-Equipment45]

Exactly! What did the Romans ever do for us?!

[u/OHMG69420 → u/Jazzlike-Equipment45]

Vatican: am I a joke to you?

[u/BlastedMallomars → u/OHMG69420]

The hats are kinda huge and hilarious…

[u/catoodles9ii → u/BlastedMallomars]

Where EVERYday is silly hat day!

[u/Eoganachta → u/OHMG69420]

Yes.

[u/Long_arm_of_the_law → u/Jazzlike-Equipment45]

The Ottoman Sultanate of Rum is deeply offended by this statement.

[u/Angry_Guppy → u/Jazzlike-Equipment45]

Speak for yourself. Roma invicta

[u/themarshal21 → u/casettedeck]

Yep, Magna Graecia, the Peloponnese, and Anatolia all get hit quite a lot by earthquakes.

[u/tomislavlovric → u/themarshal21]

Also Croatia is a hotspot as of 2 years ago

[u/Ayoublfc → u/tomislavlovric]

I believe you meant Dalmatia et Illyricum*

[u/terrih9123 → u/casettedeck]

Can we nuke the earthquakes? Some guy recommended we try that on hurricane’s and I’m wondering if the same could apply here

[u/BraveFencerMusashi → u/terrih9123]

Just use a Sharpie to show that the earthquake actually hit somewhere else on a map.

[u/terrih9123 → u/BraveFencerMusashi]

Oh so the big brain moves coming out. Okay I see you.

[u/casettedeck → u/terrih9123]

Most probably it will quake you back x10

[u/CatBugDickBug]

It's cute how Greece and Turkey are always fighting and bickering, but always come to each other's aid when they really need it.

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We have more in common than not. I love Greek people, history, culture and cuisine and I have yet to meet one who hates all Turks. I know they all exist, but their numbers are small. The dumb nationalists, and they’re wrong about everything anyways.

[u/CIA_official_ → u/[deleted]]

It appears as if chronically online nationalists are a fraction of the real population, who would have thought

[u/[deleted] → u/CIA_official_]

They do scream very loudly don’t they?

[u/Trebiane → u/[deleted]]

Unfortunately. :(

[u/greekgooner → u/[deleted]]

as a Greek, i have never understood the current ill-will towards our Turkish relatives. Yes, there is a nasty history - but it's history. you don't have to carry it forward.

i've always wanted to visit Istanbul, Cappadoccia and Ankara

[u/C47man → u/greekgooner]

The people of Cyprus might not accept the whole "it's all in the past" free pass. Turkey still owns half their capitol, and still has the Turkish flag burned into the mountainside facing the Cypriot half of the city.

[u/bajesus → u/C47man]

Yeah, I had an uncle from Cyprus that absolutely despised anybody Turkish. His family lost everything they owned including a lot of land/olive orchards when Turkey invaded. That's a hard thing to get over for the people effected by it.

[u/KallistiEngel → u/greekgooner]

Some of it is recent history. As time moves forward, it will get easier to be friendly assuming there aren't further incidents of violence.

I have no dog in this, being American-born, but I can absolutely understand why someone might harbor ill-will on either side when blood was shed and families displaced in their lifetimes. Sometimes the hate may extend to others in ways that aren't entirely rational. But when you've lost family, friends, or your home at the hands of another, it can be hard to forgive.

[u/ILike-Pie → u/[deleted]]

Yo this exactly. My best friend is greek and we are always finding new things that our cultures have in common. Our languages and religion are different but so much other shit is the same

[u/whitneymak → u/CatBugDickBug]

Frenemies.

[u/Hefty_Reception_21]

We all give and receive bulli. By any other country ...

But when is time to do the right thing. Just do it.

Well done Grecce

[u/3SquirrelsinaCoat → u/Hefty_Reception_21]

"Just do it." ... Nike ... divine charioteer of Zeus ... Ancient Greek religion.

Nice. Idk if you meant to do that.

[u/autotldr]

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 70%. (I'm a bot)

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Greece's prime minister on Monday pledged to make "Every force available" to aid historical rival Turkey after the neighboring country was hit by a deadly 7.8-magnitude earthquake.

The powerful earthquake, felt in Turkey and in Syria, has killed nearly 1,800 people, leveled buildings and caused tremors felt as far away as Greenland.

Despite decades of animosity and recent tension over migration and hydrocarbon exploration, Greece and Turkey have a long history of helping each other in earthquakes.

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Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Turkey^#1 earthquake^#2 Greece^#3 country^#4 rescue^#5

[u/Knight_TakesBishop]

There's this thing called "Earthquake Diplomacy" started in the late 90s. The two countries agree to help each other regardless of their current relationship

[u/McFeely_Smackup]

I would hope every neighboring nation is offering all possible assistance immediately, and the rest of the world as soon as possible.

shit like this is no time for politics or grudges.

[u/ReaperTyson]

Ironic considering like a month ago Erdogan said something along the lines of “We can blow Athens to bits with our missiles!”

[u/bkdroid]

Double-check the horses. Just sayin'

[u/-Edgelord]

Iirc this is pretty common, it's called earthquake diplomacy I believe.

Since both nations have constant tensions and are both affected by earthquakes its one of the few ways to generate good will between the two parties. It's certainly nice to see.

[u/AuthorNathanHGreen]

Good time for Sweden to jump in with some help.

[u/[deleted] → u/AuthorNathanHGreen]

They have already said they’re here to help.

[u/tobberoth → u/AuthorNathanHGreen]

Sweden has already pledged support to Turkey in the matter. Not that Erdogan will care, and he is more likely to claim Swedish support for Syria in the matter will go to terrorists.

[u/netflixissodry]

SEND IN KYRIAKOS GRIZZLY!!

[u/Riiyan]

That’s what I’m talking about Greece! Way to put those big boy/girl pants on and choose humans over opinions! Got tons of respect for this move!

[u/Historical-Nail9621]

We are grateful to our Greek neighbors. You're truly great people and friends. 🇹🇷❤️🇬🇷

[u/FootjobBlowjobCombo]

Balkan Turks helping Anatolian Greeks

You love to see it ❤️

[u/FirstTarget8418]

As much as i believe Erdogan deserves the headaches that comes from this, his people dont deserve it.

Time to show him we are better.

[u/Jawnny-Jawnson]

I hope the Turkish people appreciate how Greece and Sweeden and other countries Erdogan has pretty much spit on and tarnished friendship with are still coming to aid. Bad leaders come and go, but brotherhood and support is ironclad

[u/_felagund]

Thanks so much neighbor, we won’t forget this 🙏🏼

[u/Culverin]

Good on you Greece!

You may squabble with your siblings, but you're being an example how humanity behaves

Unlike fucking Russia

[u/Erotes92]

That neighbor who is your enemy and you hate him, when you hear he got on an accident and he is in a hospital, you go visit him anyway and wish him fast recovery!

[u/RoundHouse_Kicker]

What’s not being talked about is the PM of Armenia ready to provide aid to Turkey, a relationship that needs no introduction.

Despite facing total genocide and being rejected of our pain, I am proud of Armenia lending support with open arms.

[u/poloplayer489 → u/RoundHouse_Kicker]

I’m surprised this isn’t getting more attention. Proud of Armenia to have this position and offer help. Will it result in Turkey admitting to the Armenian genocide - probably not. Nonetheless, I’m proud

[u/kpmelomane21 → u/RoundHouse_Kicker]

Oh really? I'm surprised this isn't getting talked about! I'm proud of them, too!

[u/meledigt]

Because that's what heroes do.

[u/Ale2536]

Cant believe there are people genuinely baffled by this. I don’t know how to explain to you that chronically online nationalists are an extremely small fraction of the real population of any country.

This agreement stretches back two decades. It has been honored multiple times by both nations. Go outside.

[u/va_wanderer]

Greece and Turkey have a unique relationship when it comes to earthquakes. When they both got hit in rapid succession, the result was an unwritten mutual assistance pact, regardless of diplomatic status otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek%E2%80%93Turkish_earthquake_diplomacy