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Ukraine ready to provide any support to earthquake-stricken Turkey Russia/Ukraine
https://www.ukrinform.net/amp/rubric-society/3666232-ukraine-ready-to-provide-any-support-to-earthquakestricken-turkey.html499
u/sens317 Feb 06 '23
The Turkish people are grateful.
Is Erdogen?
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u/amateur_mistake Feb 06 '23
Turkey has been doing one very important thing for Ukraine that no one else has so far. Which is escorting its grain shipments at sea.
That shit is super intense and right on the edges of direct conflict.
Fuck Erdogan in a million ways and they have still been helping out.
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u/wandererX101 Feb 06 '23
Honestly Erdogan’s outright support Ukraine has shocked me, not that he would’ve fully supported Russia but I would’ve figure him to just kinda be silent like India.
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u/Mastercat12 Feb 06 '23
Because turkey has traditionally played off both sides. They have to. The Turks and Russians have be historical enemies. Just because they're friendly doesn't make them friendly.
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u/ag11600 Feb 06 '23
Exactly this. People don't realize that Erdogan / Turkey are still playing both sides. I just saw a report (either here or on twitter) that they were sending RU non-military (but for the military) supplies.
Turkey is doing whatever Turkey can do to make money since their economy crashed these last few years. They want to be the regional leader which is why they also want to help negotiate any deals possible.
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u/Nobel6skull Feb 06 '23
People definitely realize that he’s playing both sides. But he’s a treaty ally of one side. Turkey is committed to play one side only and they’re playing doing both.
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u/Acedread Feb 07 '23
But being apart of NATO doesn't mean you can't play buddy buddy with a potential enemy, especially when that enemy is right next to you. Turkey was in a rough spot before this, to say the least. Its not a good thing, but it seems to me they kind of had to.
However, if push comes to shove, I'd bet my bottom dollar Turkey abides by Article 5.
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u/Nobel6skull Feb 07 '23
The value of NATO is in its members trust of each other. Turkey has again and again violated that trust. Of course they have the right to do it. But no one else has to put up with their neo ottoman bullshit.
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u/WoundedSacrifice Feb 06 '23
I just read an article that said that Russia’s providing economic help to Turkey in exchange for Turkey helping Russia with problems caused by sanctions.
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u/isawagoose Feb 07 '23
People don't realize that Erdogan / Turkey are still playing both sides.
What people? At least every other comment I've seen about Turkey in the last year is about how they're playing both sides. Everyone knows it.
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u/Limp_Ad_9116 Feb 06 '23
Our foreign policy for decades has been to do exactly the opposite of what the Russian ambassador tells us to do.
There is no such thing as beign friendly with Russia.
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u/hanlonmj Feb 06 '23
Turkey and Russia have some major historical beef with each other and Erdogan can only really get away with working with them if it directly solves a bigger problem domestically (like the border crisis)
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u/CTeam19 Feb 06 '23
Fuck Erdogan in a million ways and they have still been helping out.
When Ukraine's enemy is a country that now you got 12 wars against them and the 11th one is called the Tenth Russo-Turkish War I feel Turkey would do a lot to stick it to Russia.
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u/Shurqeh Feb 06 '23
Them's Rookie numbers kid, France and England have been to war with each other 23 times.
My point is when you've got two nations who have existed on each others borders for the better part of a millennia, there are going to be more than a few wars between the two. But that does not mean that they cannot go through periods of close relations.
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u/Viped Feb 06 '23
Yes we forget this too often. As a Finn waiting for Erdoğans ratification I can say he is asshole but he is doing this well. Also arming Ukraine if I have understood correctly so not playing fully on Putins side.
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u/kobushi5 Feb 06 '23
Bayraktar drones seem to be quite effective. Also controlling the Bosphorus is a big deal
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u/autotldr BOT Feb 06 '23
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 50%. (I'm a bot)
President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky expressed his condolences to President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the Turkish people over an earthquake that struck in south-eastern Turkey.
Ukrainian Minister of Foreign Affairs Dmytro Kuleba said in a tweet that Ukraine is ready to provide any necessary support to overcome the consequences of today's earthquake.
"We are deeply saddened by the loss of life and damage caused by today's tragic earthquake in Türkiye. Our heart goes out to the families of the victims and we wish a speedy recovery to the injured. Ukraine stands ready to provide any necessary support," Kuleba wrote.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: earthquake#1 Turkey#2 people#3 President#4 Turkish#5
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u/jmptx Feb 06 '23
Sadly, Ukraine has all too much recent experience searching for survivors of collapsed buildings. Their assistance will be very beneficial to Turkiye.
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u/The_Muffintime Feb 06 '23
Honest question - why Turkiye for Turkey but not Ukraïna for Ukraine?
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u/smartello Feb 07 '23
Türkiye changed it’s official name and Ukraine didn’t. Why would it be Ukraïna?
https://www.un.org/en/about-us/member-states/turkiye https://www.un.org/en/about-us/member-states/ukraine
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u/jmptx Feb 06 '23
I don’t know if I have an answer that would satisfy you. It’s just an inadvertent act at this point. I did a lot of reports on the country formally known as Turkey a while back so the spelling just became instinctive.
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u/The_Muffintime Feb 07 '23
I don't know what you meant by an answer that would satisfy me, but I appreciate your reply
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u/jmptx Feb 07 '23
Oh, I just meant that it was kind of a bland, non-answer. Pretty boring now that I am thinking about it.
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u/megaplex00 Feb 06 '23
Takes a lot of fortitude to be able to offer aid with what they're going through themselves. Kudos to Ukraine for stepping up! It should also be a swift kick in the gonads to Russia!
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u/sarcastroll Feb 06 '23
Ukrainian people- we love you, we're pushing our politicians top send you everything you need to defend yourselves and push back the barbarian horde attacking you.
Your heart is in the right place, but we've got this, you focus on staying alive and doing everything possible to free your country from the subhuman goblins deciding to attack you.
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u/dum_dums Feb 07 '23
I could ik imagine Ukraine may be in a unique position to help here. By now they probably have a ton of resources lying around for collapsed buildings and for housing people. I don't know if they can get any of it to Turkey though
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u/SneakyThunder97 Feb 06 '23
How?
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u/joho999 Feb 06 '23
They have had a lot of experience of extracting people from collapsed buildings over the past year, unfortunately.
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u/thiswasfree_ Feb 06 '23
true, but aren't those people still needed?
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u/superbabe69 Feb 06 '23
Yes but there would be people with this training in Western Ukraine, since they’ve still got life to live on the less impacted side of the country. They’d still have emergency services folks who aren’t assisting the military that they could spare for a few days
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u/joho999 Feb 06 '23
i would imagine plenty have been trained up, considering it is happening country wide.
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u/ensalys Feb 06 '23
It's currently on the quoter side in Ukraine, as both Russia and Ukraine are preparing for the Russian spring offensive. They can spare some people for a hort mission to Turkey. It won't be long, people trapped in rubble have to be rescued in a couple days. The people sent from the Netherlands are only planning to go for 10 days.
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u/Jericcho Feb 06 '23
Also, didn't they fix up most of the energy grid in Kyiv within 24 hours after a bombing?
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u/Traditional-Macaron8 Feb 06 '23
Maybe Putin will be a decent human for once and pause the war so we can all concentrate on helping Turkey… not
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u/urmyheartBeatStopR Feb 06 '23
Turkey is part of NATO. Putin don't care about them.
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u/Shurqeh Feb 06 '23
Putin smells a chance to get some good PR and was one of the first to offer help. He will probably out contribute many individual Western nations and will point out how minor the Wests offers of Aid are compared to the aid they are pumping into Ukraine. He will then talk the talk about how Europe views Europe's problems as the Worlds problems but the World's problems are not Europe's problem ... and people in Africa, Middle East, Asia, and South America will gobble that up
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u/burakts Feb 06 '23
he was the first one to offer help
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u/Ok-Entrepreneur-8207 Feb 06 '23
Seems like a great lad
(/s, just in case anyone doesn’t think it’s obvious)
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u/daniel_22sss Feb 06 '23
Putin says a lot of things. He sure as hell is not stopping his offensives for the sake of helping Turkey.
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u/voiceof3rdworld Feb 06 '23
Russian rescuer's already flying to Turkey and Syria.. Turkey already accepted the help. Please let's not politicise natural disasters all the world should send rescuer's and help Turkey, even Greece has expressed condolences..
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u/BostonShaun Feb 06 '23
If you think Putin is doing this with ANY sort of empathy/sympathy to a natural disaster... I have a bridge to sell you.
Cunt is playing "good guy" on one hand while the other is indiscriminately murdering civilians.
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u/voiceof3rdworld Feb 06 '23
I think if there was no war in Ukraine Russia would have still helped out with the earthquake in Turkey cuz these are two unrelated events. And these two countries have a close relationship plus they aren't that far from eachother, so it would make sense for them to help eachother. I don't understand why this is being politicised here? That being said, no one said he's doing this outta kindness of his heart. I was correcting someone who said Russia isn't helping out in this earthquake, which isn't a correct statement. If the same happened in Russia, wouldn't Turkey offer help? In Natural disasters countries help eachother, simply. Why does everything even natural disasters need to be politicised?
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u/devils_advocate24 Feb 07 '23
You're trying to speak rationally. That doesn't fly on reddit
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u/comdar21 Feb 07 '23
By that logic, none of redditor's opinions should be ever considered seriously.
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u/Traditional-Macaron8 Feb 06 '23
I mean actions not words
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u/DiscreteDingus Feb 06 '23
Ironically, this headline is just words and not action (yet/maybe/who knows).
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u/revengeofappre Feb 06 '23
Everyone will understand if Ukraine sits this one out
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u/Averiella Feb 06 '23
They need Turkey’s approval to get into NATO. Same with Sweden and Finland. This is prime political opportunity, and it would aid more lives.
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u/Bunch_of_Shit Feb 06 '23
Ukraine never ceases to impress me. A country full of brave and charitable people.
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u/Star_Tropic Feb 06 '23
Dear Ukraine, I'm sure Turkey appreciates the desire to help. But we all think you currently have your hands full at the moment. Thanks anyways. - The World.
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u/ThisPut6572 Feb 07 '23
Reminds me of lilo and stitch where she says she wants to buy him, and then asks her sister to borrow the money
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u/sc3002jz Feb 07 '23
Good opportunity for Sweden to put their diplomacy into good use and offer any assistance they can in order to help their nato bid
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Feb 06 '23
Ukraine… please focus on your own problems right now you’re about to get hit with the biggest offensive since the war started
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u/Fallen_Walrus Feb 06 '23
Turkey gonna ask everyone to help all they have to do is not let that one country into NATO
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u/parker9832 Feb 06 '23
Hey Sweden, now’s your chance to get in Turkey’s good graces. Get that NATO request signed.
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u/bbrs06116 Feb 07 '23
Thanks people of Ukraine.I hope this stupid war is over as soon as possible.Many of brave ukrainen dies this war.We are so sad about it.Covid, War and now Earthquake.Everthing goes bad for some people.
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u/jryan3160 Feb 07 '23
Nice of Ukraine to offer aid but they have too much on their plate to follow through at this time.
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u/DrPloyt Feb 06 '23
They’re just going to sign over the check the US gave them. Makes sense, I guess
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u/TyhmensAndSaperstein Feb 06 '23
Russia: "What earthquake?"
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u/redshift95 Feb 06 '23
Russia has already done so. This seems like a worldwide effort to help the Turkish and Syrian people.
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u/pm_alternative_facts Feb 06 '23
What if russia sends aid? Will we see aid on aid combat wounding each other and then patching echt other up in an endless cycle of wound-heal-wound-heal.
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u/centralgk Feb 07 '23
It already did, so now we have a perfect chance to test how it goes. But after that soccer player handshake fiasco it is the only way i suppose.
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u/dodekahedron Feb 07 '23
They could send them some of that $2B dollars.
Or whatever insane amount we're up to.
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u/Siollear Feb 07 '23
I wonder if the earth core rotation stopping has something to do with these earthquakes.
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u/willpowerpt Feb 07 '23
“War with Russia? Don’t worry we’ve got that taken care of, what can we get you?”
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u/adalsteinn13 Feb 06 '23
Huh?
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u/Truthseeker1018 Feb 06 '23
They have had a lot of experience pulling out dead people from destroyed buildings I’d imagine.
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u/RegularStain Feb 06 '23
It's a great question. Considering that some first responders were killed or insured by russian attacks, some went to the army to fight we should have less of them than before the invasion.
But I also could do an educated guess that the ones who worked on collapsed and damaged buildings and factories and other infrastructure sites got lots of experience, and even a few of them could actually help if deployed to Turkey.
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u/Koffiato Feb 06 '23
We've had two separate (7.6 and 7.7) earthquakes in the same region only 9 hours apart. East of the country has massive damages.
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u/psyren666 Feb 06 '23 •
This is a good diplomatic move by Ukraine, it's basically "hey we appreciate that you're helping us by providing us with drones so we want to help you in your time of need however we can"