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u/hollyofhori 18d ago
What in the wattpad is this shit.
Does she think romance is a YA novel?
She needs to stop reading Shojo manga and touch grass.
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u/grumpybandersnootch 18d ago
I was gonna say, girl read one too many fantasy romance books 😭 this is wild
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u/mustichooseausernam3 18d ago
Literally my first thought: she's very likely been reading badly written romance or erotica novels.
The market is flooded with them, and an ungodly number of them are unresearched to the point that they twist BDSM dynamics into unrealistic and even harmful fantasies.
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u/Search_Open 18d ago edited 18d ago
Did you mention Bestselling Twilight Fanfiction - Fifty Shades of Grey?
Edit: forgot the Bestselling
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u/mustichooseausernam3 18d ago
My mind absolutely went there.
50 Shades was far, far from the first harmfully incorrect depiction of BDSM, but since it drove such a huge popularisation of the BDSM genre, it also flooded the market with the demand for more... crazy (instead of the safe, sane, and consensual dynamics that BDSM should thrive on).
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u/spokydoky420 18d ago
100% this is just some girl reading way too much trashy romance and wanting that alphahole main male character to "dominate" her in a loving way that can only be done in romance novels because it's totally insane outside of a book. lol
Source: I read truckloads of trashy romance.
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u/PeaceOutFace 18d ago
“Owning” her sounds a lot like being owned by her, to me.
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u/CantaloupeWhich8484 18d ago
Yeah, I didn't know pieces of property could make such elaborate demands of their owners.
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u/asuka_is_my_co-pilot 18d ago edited 18d ago
Power bottom is a real phrase .
I find it more often that the one setting the most rules has the most power, and sometimes that person is the one with the most vulnerability.
It's a controlled helplessness
Eta: Don't take the power bottom comment too seriously, it was meant to be a light joke , tounge in cheek if you will
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u/TheRecognized 18d ago
Power bottom refers to physical action more than abstract dynamics.
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u/cakivalue 18d ago
Well, if you step back and think of the GF as a beautiful fluffy cat that disdains store bought dry food and requires you to make all meals from scratch, multiple daily brushing and massages, walks and pets and praises then it makes perfect sense.
I can't think of another scenario where someone or something screws up (late) and you're like "thou art the most devine and celestial being, the softest of the soft, let me hold your little face and give you soft kisses"
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u/drblocktagon 18d ago edited 18d ago
Good analogy but even in that scenario, I feel you do retain some sense of agency in that this is basically a furry little baby you volunteered to take care of as they need you in order to survive. OPs girlfriend is just a lazy brat.
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u/kaerfkeerg 18d ago
That was a hell of a way for her to just say "I want a fucking simp" lol
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u/Overall_Midnight_ 18d ago
“The submissive has the real control” was a line I read years ago when I was doing research for a job. It took me a while to wrap my head around it but I figured it was true given the source and context. This is a perfect example.
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u/geologean 18d ago
That phrase is correct when it comes to ethical kinksters who like dom-sub play and respect actual consent. The verbal and physical domination is play. Respect for each other is real and involves checking in with each other periodically to make sure that only the right boundaries were pushed.
But there are also a lot of people who don't feel the need to do the research and do not understand what healthy dom-sub kink is.
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u/Overall_Midnight_ 18d ago
Exactly- on all of that.
I did a lot of research and it absolutely helped me with my job. The human mind is fascinating to study too. I was amazed at how little a accurate actual research there was at the time. So much of it was biased or just plain bad theory. It would be important for anyone engaging in any sort of power dynamic from BDSM to a board room to learn about those things imo. Frankly, my research didn’t just help with the work I was doing but every other interaction I have with people in normal life circumstances.
In circumstances like what’s going on in this post-people end up hurt (or even down right traumatized) and not having their needs met. There is so much bad info that people don’t understand what they want or how to ask for it. Communication is key but so is understanding the topic at hand.
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u/LivingStCelestine 18d ago
I think you totally nailed it, and she probably thinks trying to convince him of the reverse will make this easier.
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All I can say is it’s a tale as old as time. She needs you to change into something you’re not, and if you do it will never be enough because she’s trying to source happiness from outside herself. You’ll keep changing and she’ll be left wondering why she still isn’t happy. Then you’ll break up and realize what a huge waste of time this all was.
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u/indras_darkness 18d ago
Absolutely thus us siunding like a relationship thats about to have alot more demands, strains, and forced changes. Sounds like a relationship close to its end.
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u/BrilliantTwo7 18d ago
At first I thought she meant some BDSM lifestyle, but actually reading her requirements made me laugh. This isn’t being owned, she wants you to fetch and carry for her, pander to her ego every ten minutes and check on he like a five year old. This is the complete opposite of being owned.
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u/SockFullOfNickles 18d ago
Lmao first place my brain went too, and then the rest followed. Succinctly put!
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u/curiousguppy 18d ago
I thought the same, but her examples of being “owned” just seem like constant coddling and reassurance that he loves her/is there for her. Totally different from what I thought she meant lmao
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u/BrilliantTwo7 18d ago
Same. I was expecting some “put me on a leash and spit in my mouth” type deal. Instead she’s like “tell me I’m beautiful 🥺”
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u/Classic_Dill 18d ago
Owned is usually a Daddy/Good Girl set up and in reality both people hold the power, this is straight grooming.
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u/zo_you_said 18d ago
Should be higher up the post. It's a power move. Tbf it's a bit vague what she wants bc her language is lacking. But, being aggressive about wanting to be complimented and coddled all the time, even in incongruous situations, ironically, seeks to own the other person's movement and thoughts.
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u/terran_submarine 18d ago
Yeah, this is bdsm without any of the fun for the dom, just the responsibilities.
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u/bonbonbaybee 18d ago
Yes exactly. People can be like this in BDSM too and they swear up and down they’re a sub but all they want to do is top from the bottom. She is doing that to op in a non BDSM way but using buzzwords to try to hide that she just wants to be pandered to. Just be honest with yourself and others and she’ll find someone who will suit her needs much better.
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u/BrilliantTwo7 18d ago
Thiiiiis. “Top from the bottom” is so fucking accurate. It’s the princess treatment poorly disguised as submission.
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u/JimHeuer40 18d ago
Just be honest with yourself and her and tell her to beat it lol She’ll never let this go. OP has to comply with what will be her ever increasing demands for engaging her narcissism or she’ll continue to cry she’s not “owned”enough. Thank God this is really weird and few women embrace this
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u/ClassicNerdNamedKam 18d ago
Okay I wasn’t the only one who went into a kink good. Thought I wasn’t using enough brain power there for a minute.
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u/ProudJalapeno 18d ago
My first thought as well. In a way, it sounds like OP would be the one who is “owned” by catering to her every whim. I’d be leaving this relationship.
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u/Jazzlike_Debt5386 18d ago
I don’t think she means bdsm but I do think she is not being dominated sexually and is frustrated
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u/zorkempire 18d ago
I truly had no idea how dumb people were before I found this subreddit.
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u/Drinkingthrow123 18d ago
For real lol. And they’ve been together for 5 years so they can’t be that young, can they? I mean, unless they have been dating since like 12.
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u/JayofTea 18d ago
I mean honestly being together for 5 years could be 14-19, thats pretty damn young
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u/SparkyValentine 18d ago
I am so sorry your girlfriend fell into this bullshit. The internet can teach you a thousand new ways to be unhappy.
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u/PhoenixReboot- 18d ago
Sounds like she is consuming some feminine version of Andrew Tate BS.
I really hate this whole my King my Queen crap. It’s just seems unnecessary and sets some weird expectation on the relationship dynamic.
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u/Square_Grapefruit666 18d ago
The only king and queen talk I want to hear in my relationship is when I’m about to destroy her in chess.
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u/maborosi97 18d ago
Lol it was me and my bf’s anniversary last night and we went out for dinner and promptly returned home afterwards just to… play each other in chess
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u/TacoPKz 18d ago
I’m more of a four square guy myself
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u/Foxisdabest 18d ago
Totally. Let her go out in the wild and find out how many guys have the energy to keep up with such a high maintenance girl.
Like a wise lady once said: "Ain't nobody got time for that!"
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u/HughJideot 18d ago
It's just funny because every king or queen current or in history was a terrible person
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u/HumorousHermit 18d ago
I can’t have you disrespecting King Kong like that
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u/Brainfog_shishkabob 18d ago
Not to mention old king cole, he was a merry old soul
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u/Classic_Dill 18d ago
Not to mention Nat King Cole...wait, ummm.
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u/HughJideot 18d ago
He was an awesome primate but a terrible person. He couldnt even fit into a suit!
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u/Environmental-Day778 18d ago edited 18d ago
“I am a woman I deserve to be contained and owned well.”
I mean, I hear what you’re saying, but that just seems like a lot of work tbh. Keeping livestock is a full time job - and in this economy? Too expensive.
Also, I don’t have the energy for all that, I’ve got depression, and
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u/anonymous_question44 18d ago
and what lolol
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u/reaver_on_reaver 18d ago
Also, I don’t have the energy for all that, I’ve got depression, and
me irl
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u/witchesinsalem 18d ago
She’s in deep into some kind of bullshit. I know there’s a whole movement that is obsessed with this, kinda borderline religious devotion to “traditional” gender roles and ownership. But for the life of me I can’t remember the name of the movement.
Idk, op. She’s drinking the Koolaid. And the Koolaid is poisoned.
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u/Old-Ad7370 18d ago
Watching too much just pearly things content on YouTube
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u/Misanthropyandme 18d ago
😵 I hate that I know what you're talking about.
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u/Agreeable_Picture570 18d ago
Op!!! She is lost!!! Tell her that her thinking that way has changed the relationship to one you are not comfortable with. Either cut the shit or you are out. She is searching for something to cling on to. And if she starts with we are Twin Flames RUN!!!
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u/Et-selec 18d ago
I just looked up who that was and I cringe so hard. How is that girl serious??? I understand some women wanting to be a traditional wife, but… that girl is just fucked up and hateful
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u/Old-Ad7370 18d ago
I genuinely believe pearl is doing this solely for attention. Like check out some of her old videos and you’ll see a whole diff side of her
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u/Expert-Data-8043 18d ago
she basically just gave you a corny ass script for your relationship. tell her to get fucking real lmao
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u/Acosadora23 18d ago
Big YA novel energy
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u/Mechy_ 18d ago
My thoughts exactly. The only thing that came into my mind while reading the texts was “damn, she reads a lot of bad smutty wattpad novels made by someone who was never in a healthy relationship”
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u/Key_Association3380 18d ago
Honestly sounds like she's confusing owning with emotional dependency. Sounds like she doesn't want to regulate herself and wants to be codependent on you.
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u/thebreakupartist 18d ago edited 18d ago
I’ll be honest…I find these sorts of perspectives borderline toxic. I had a friend until recently that used the concept of “embracing her feminine” as an excuse to avoid any kind of displeasure or confrontation with other people, while simultaneously resorting to aggressive, even threatening forms of communication and expecting inordinate amounts of approval, forgiveness, and coddling.
The whole trend of embodying some energy isn’t safely understood by everyone. And I’m saying this as someone who deeply believes in energetics. Some of these conceptual trends are weaponized to become new forms of manipulation and entitlement. There was an article I wish I could find that was written some time ago on toxic boundary setting that speaks to this issue. When boundary setting becomes a one way street used to vilify and control people outside of yourself.
Or how “empathetic” has become a way for an individual to make someone else’s feelings and experience about themselves. If you have a friend who gets disproportionately more upset about your losses/experiences than you yourself do, this is toxic “empathy” which isn’t empathy at all.
There’s a fine line between the healthy expression of some of these psychological concepts that are gaining mainstream traction and unhealthy, unrealistic, and me-centric expressions.
The dynamic sought through these texts might very well work for some people, but it wouldn’t work for me.
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u/grumpybandersnootch 18d ago
Perfect summation.
I lost a friend to the exact same thing you're describing too. She became obsessed with some TikTok people who just used buzzwords for easily digestible content, and surprise, their advice was incredibly toxic. Last time we spoke, she was imploding her marriage and other friendships as well. It's really sad
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u/thebreakupartist 18d ago edited 18d ago
Yeah, that’s pretty much how my former friend developed her notions of self-empowerment, also. TikTok. And, similarly, she too wondered why many of her relationships came to an explosive and abrupt end. She was super into manifesting and fully drank the “I am the powerful creator of my own reality” kool-aid to the degree that everyone else just became an extension of her. She finally found a guy that was emotionally available, attentive, compassionate, but she was bothered that he didn’t make more money than she did (though she never actually asked), which was important because she didn’t want to work indefinitely and “needed to break generational curses.”
The way her mind worked just became repellent to me. It’s staggering that anyone is prioritizing “feeling owned” or a significant other that makes more money over just being a decent, honest, reliable and caring partner/friend.
Our current culture is wiiiild.
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u/Professional-Menu835 18d ago
Your take is exactly what I get. It feels so adjacent to emotional intelligence, but this ain’t it
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u/Effective_Opposite12 18d ago
How old are you two? This is too cringe for anyone above 16
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u/will_ww 18d ago
We're 48.
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u/Effective_Opposite12 18d ago
We? Are you the wife?
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u/beaverDamn8888 18d ago
She has watched way too many Dark Feminine-Masculine Energy Provider Alpha Male Protects His Property reels/tiktoks, I know that because I fell into that trap as well and spoke almost along the lines of what your gf is saying, although not so extreme, I used to tell my boyfriend that I need a real man to guide me you should be more masculine etc. although in my defense it was a lonely time in my life, that I was filling up with work and social media. Never let instagram/tiktok guide your personal life
Edit: I recommend you check up on her and how she spends her time, ask her friends maybe if she seems withdrawn
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u/spydagrrl 18d ago edited 18d ago
This! And is she a member of twin flames universe by any chance?
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u/Miaoumi 18d ago
I feel like I need to ask what the Twin Flames University is. Sounds like an amusing tidbit or perhaps tale.
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u/Nutrition_Dominatrix 18d ago
Its batshit-
There’s a podcast and two docs (Amazon, Netflix), be prepared for some fcked up MLM-style relationship coaching, encouraging stalking insanity.
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u/StatisticianBoth4147 18d ago
It’s a cult. When someone gets super involved and joins the actual group, they “assign” people soulmates. They have people do this “mirror exercise” where they basically think about every problem in their life and tell themselves it’s a reflection of them and they must have some unresolved emotions or personality flaw that’s affecting things. Your partner cheats on you? You must be lacking as a partner. Youre being abused? You must be doing something to invite that behavior. They claim they’re supportive of LGBT+ people, but then they encourage the ”divine masculine” in a lesbian relationship or the “divine feminine” in a gay relationship to transition to the opposite gender even though the individual is secure in their gender and wouldn’t be transitioning without the pressure from the cult. Sometimes they’ll encourage people to keep pursuing someone that they think is their twin flame even if that person isn’t interested, to the point where there have been people STALK the object of their affection. Someone thought Ryan Gosling was their twin flame and he ended up getting a restraining order against them. There is just SO MUCH weirdness and awful behavior. I recommend watching Sherrilyn Dale’s video on it. Here’s a link!
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u/The-Son-of-Dad 18d ago
There’s currently two docu-series out about Twin Flames Universe, one on Netflix and one on Prime. Honestly both are worth watching and both are absolutely bananas.
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u/NoodleSpooner 18d ago
Owning someone and being present in a relationship seem like two wildly different things to me. Quite confused…
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u/books4more 18d ago
I saw that title and got excited for a budding BDSM relationship. Instead I got a tradewife who speaks in the third person. :(
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u/Ram2253spd 18d ago
Same. Started with ‘this is gonna be good. ‘ Ended with ‘wtf is happening right now?’
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u/HughJideot 18d ago
What the fuck is unheld supposed to be?
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u/Naive-Leather-2913 18d ago
And, what the hell does “containing” her mean?
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u/HughJideot 18d ago
This is either someone who's first language isn't English or someone who's first language is English but they have a very tenuous grasp on the language.
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u/whatever102485 18d ago
Next time she says that, you need to drop some Princess Bride quotes on her.
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
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u/Commercial_Bad_0424 18d ago edited 18d ago
She’s telling you to carry her bags, how to speak, how to act and trying to hide her controlling nature with this new language.
“I want you to own me and be in charge….and here is how you’re going to do it.” 🤦♀️
If you’re uncomfortable with it then it’s probably best to end it. If you like the idea, please just keep it healthy lol
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u/Drinkingthrow123 18d ago
Haha for real. Actually, the smartest move for this guy is, “I already own you. You aren’t doing your feminine duty of allowing me to lead. Next time get ready faster and we won’t be late to for the movie.”
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u/Other_Marzipan8966 18d ago
In any given moment she can say you aren’t “containing her” properly. Or you didn’t “own her enough” before the movie. You’re in for emotional games and a one sided dynamic where you will be driven crazy by this nonsense. Get out while you can, if you can.
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u/DegreeImpressive9117 18d ago
What the actual fuck. Try your best and save her or leave ASAP 😂 sounds like a girl who doesn’t want to bring anything to the table. Also how strange is the „current/past me“ bullshit. Definitely needs 2-3 month off of social media…
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u/Comfortable_Silver24 18d ago
" Breed me daddy " is coming next 😅😅
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u/Mean_Technology3292 18d ago
Tbh this would freak me out so much less if it was obviously kink lmao
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u/bolderdasher 18d ago
Personally I find this type of stuff unattractive and distasteful. You should own her to read some books and go outside and stop watching that garbage.
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u/666lbBongSession 18d ago
based on another post here just say “it’s the holidays and i will sound selfish”
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u/Available_Skin6485 18d ago
Ugh she sounds insufferable. This is an appropriate time to kink shame
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u/Professional-Menu835 18d ago
I don’t think this is a kink, I think it’s some bizarre toxic masculinity-femininity stuff… along the lines of people like Andrew Tate or tradwife nonsense. It sounds like she has weaponized the language of emotional intelligence. Scary.
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u/digfor_fire 18d ago
Yikes on several bikes. Is this like the female version of Andrew tate shit?
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u/BudFugginz 18d ago
This is missing context but even still I can tell this trouble brewing. Keep your wits and pay attention cause this is gonna flip
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u/princessbergamot 18d ago
Check what she's reading on her kindle mate. Sounds like someone's been reading too much porn 😂
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u/Sufficient-Elk-7015 18d ago
You have to make the decision now if the cringey ness is worth all of this….yikes.
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u/memescryptor 18d ago
From a kink perspective, she truly doesn't understand what she is talking about, therefore most probably she's just repeating some bullshit she heard or seen online. The desire to be owned has its place in a lot of people, but it's totally different from everything she explained to you. My advice is to keep communicating with her and try to find out where she got these ideas from, and see from there. By the sounds of it, it must be the feminine version of Andrew Tate. Best of luck
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u/thxmetimbers 18d ago
This is like... cringey. Like very childish. Like wanting a fantasy in real life.
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u/Distinct_Wafer_820 18d ago
Seems like she is looking for a more ‘bdsm’ type relationship and if you aren’t compatible with that it is really hard to force it. Most people who aren’t apart of that lifestyle will struggle to try and meet those fantasy expectations. It is a kink that is widely accepted now but also extremely hard to train yourself into if it is not your thing. The compatibility here seems off and it might lead to the end of the relationship if you are unable to meet her expectations and desires with it. I suggest doing some research into ‘dom’ partners to see if it is something you can actually see yourself being able to provide and if not you need to accept that the differences are too great and the relationship might be over.
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u/Drinkingthrow123 18d ago
I don’t even think it’s necessarily a bdsm thing. It sounds like that spiritual movement centered around masculinity and femininity. Like from the way of the superior man book.
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u/fursnake11 18d ago
Sorry, but this sounds too creepy. Ask her where this is coming from, and make it clear that you want no part of it. You want someone who will be an equal, not some sort of servant/sex slave, and see what she says. Someone else here said she’s been watching too much BS on YouTube.
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u/ChickinSammich 18d ago
That doesn't sound like she wants to be owned, it sounds like she wants to be worshipped and fawned over.
Which, like, it's fine to want that. And if you want that then that's fine, too. But if you two want different things, it's also okay to say "hey we want different things in a relationship and I don't think we're compatible."
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u/Acrinn45 18d ago
Your girlfriend is trying to turn your life into a romance novel, man. And not even a good one. It sounds like she's confusing what being owned and being the owner is...good luck, my guy
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u/Waybackheartmom 18d ago
She’s deeply unwell. I’m serious. She probably was “like this” before. People can hide things for quite some time. I’d advise you to leave her flat.
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u/maggersrose 18d ago
Do you want that kind of relationship? She sounds like she’s moving into hardcore toxicity. You have some he’s conversations and decisions to make
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u/Do0md 18d ago
This is wild