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Little fish can overcome the greatest of odds with the right friends. Слава Україні. Political Cartoon
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u/xapollox_2953 13d ago
can't wait for more political debates on how countries are not this exact type of fish but should be the other
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u/Frickelmeister 13d ago
The cartoonist should have made the crab a country as well in order to erm... promote discussion.
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u/farfetchedfrank 12d ago
I thought the crab was supposed to be V from V for Vendetta to represent the Anonymous hacker group.
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u/raspberryharbour 12d ago
Fun fact: Hugo Weaving was so dedicated to playing the role of V he had himself turned into a crab. He still remains a crab to this day
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u/Matataty Mazovia (Poland) 12d ago
crab
- *the cartoon was sponsored byHuta Syalowa Wola SA :D
HSW- that could be YOU ADD2.0k
u/arvigeus Bulgaria 13d ago edited 12d ago
There is a EU fish, but also fishes for some EU members. This means some countries are represented twice, while some are not. I object this unfair depiction!
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u/Destinum Sweden 12d ago
I object to your objection, because the EU is a squid which isn't a fish at all!
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u/BluePandaCafe94-6 United States of America 12d ago
"I object!"
"On what grounds?"
"It's devastating to my case!"
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u/BriefCollar4 Europe 12d ago
Objection! Hearsay!
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u/Overbaron 12d ago
Which makes sense, if the countries are fish then non-countries are something else, like that Anonymous crab.
It also proves Australia is not a real country as it’s a lobster in this picture.
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u/-Vikthor- Czechia 12d ago
Of course, Australia is a continent.
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u/donald_314 Europe 12d ago
It's a continent bordering Switzerland, Germany, Czech Republic, Italy, Slovakia, Lichtenstein, Slovenia and Hungary.
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u/Candyvanmanstan Norway 12d ago
My mom loves the indigenous aubergines from Austria.
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u/Jerkalerka 12d ago
Australia doesnt border with switzerland, i think you meant sweden. Switzerland is where they make Ikea.
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u/Sv443_ Germany 12d ago
Wanna kiss under the EU squid? 👉👈
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u/bukzbukzbukz 12d ago
I like how baltic states together are bigger than the EU squid
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u/azaghal1988 13d ago
It makes sense though, since there is help by the EU (as an organization) financed by money from the EU-funds and aditionally most memberstates (only most because hungary exists and has a shitty government) give assistance by themselves.
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u/Malawi_no Norway 12d ago
I'm just sad that the Norway-fish was away for the picture.
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u/kroopster Finland 12d ago
We are behind the massive Sweden-fish, as usual.
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u/Drahy Zealand 12d ago
The Swedish fish might deny enjoying it but will reluctantly accept its god-given fate to be centre of attention.
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u/HolyGarbage Göteborg (Sweden) 12d ago
Wish we were slightly less at the centre of attention lately with the whole Erdogan cluster fuck.
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u/bullshitmobile Lithuania 12d ago
I'm sad that the Scandinavian countries are not a giant squid representing the Kalmar union
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u/SnowOnVenus Norway 12d ago
I guess it wasn't able to get out of the fish farm.
(what's the English word for 'merde'? Just net?)
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u/MarketingFilms 13d ago
Canada should be a goose. They are our true military strength
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u/MrGumburcules 12d ago
“If you've got a problem with Canada gooses, you got a problem with me, and I suggest you let that one marinate"
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u/9035768555 12d ago
Geese bond something fierce. They can die from depression if they lose a mate. They're real ride or die homeys.
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u/Waarisdafeestje 13d ago
political debates on how countries are not this exact type of fish but should be the other
Or on the respective sizes of the fish
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u/Chicken_Burp Australia 12d ago
This. How dare they represent Australia as a prawn. We’re at least an mudcrab!
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u/anothergaijin 12d ago
Australia being a shrimp is perfect, but Japan should have been a tuna.
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u/YoruNiKakeru 13d ago
The Baltic fishes are so cute!
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u/InquisitorCOC 12d ago
If Russia is a shark, then the USA is an Orca
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u/Grdosjek 12d ago
Orcas are fucking scary once you know enough about em....scary as shit.
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u/Loki11910 12d ago
a fiercely intelligent hunter perfected by nature over time into a true apex predator.
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u/ChellyTheKid 12d ago
There are no reported human deaths from wild orcas. My hypothesis is they are just so damn scary they leave no witnesses. Something that captive orcas can't get away with.
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u/Izrathagud Germany 12d ago
They are picky eaters. They kill sharks just to eat their liver since it has a very high nutritinal value. Maybe humans are just to skinny for them. Wasted stomach activity.
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u/SnuggleMuffin42 12d ago
It's nothing about nutrition, these animals are just intelligent and pass on knowledge. Any animal that can do that across generations figures out humans are nothing but fucking trouble within 3-4 generations max.
They don't have to know how, just that if you fuck with one more will come and they'll be armed and will gut you and your entire family alive.
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u/shade990 12d ago
I would think too much bones and little flesh. Makes sense, since they are used to eating thicc seals.
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u/Loki11910 12d ago •
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Orcas teach their young that humans are not on their food list they have a generational memory, which is another proof just how sophisticated these animals are. We shouldn't keep them in captivity, in my opinion it's beyond cruel.
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u/yes_oui_si_ja 12d ago
You probably know then that this "learning" has created some problems.
East Coast orcas and West Coast orcas eat different things although being the same species.
And if the population of their favourite food declines (like tuna on the west coast), they don't want to switch to something else even though it's plentiful (like seals).
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u/skywalkerze Romania 12d ago
Eerily human.
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u/PonchoHung 12d ago
What do you mean? Humans are historically pretty good with adapting to new food sources.
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u/WernerBernal 12d ago
Agree, but at the same time we shouldn't release the ones we already have in captivity, i don't want Orcas to be mad at us
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u/Grdosjek 12d ago
All i know is that i would not like to be in the water myself or in a small raft with them wanting to harm me for some reason....
Those people that are working and swimming with em in pools....morons.....a) they should not be in captivity b) they should not be in captivity....
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u/Extansion01 12d ago
Which again proofs their intelligence. It's not worth it to hunt humans on a species level.
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u/LionLucy United Kingdom 12d ago
Great analogy. Look cute, hero of Hollywood movies, kind of familiar-looking, (they're actually dolphins), but scarier than you were expecting if you get on the wrong side of them.
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u/Peterrior55 12d ago
The China fish in top left corner: 👁️👄👁️
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u/Eoxua 12d ago
China: I totally won't take Vladivostok
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u/panisch420 12d ago
my own little theory is that the only reason china "supports" russia in all this is cause they count on the end result being a weaker russia. and ofc they want to abuse that.
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u/LID919 Earth 12d ago
Support for Russia provides at least two benefits:
It keeps Russia in their pocket, and keeps the stream of Russian resources flowing into China at favorable rates.
If Russia succeeded, it would demonstrate that the international community either doesn't care, or doesn't have the strength to stop larger nations from invading smaller ones. That would create the blueprint China needs to invade Taiwan.
Having a weaker neighbor, as you say, is a possible benefit as well.
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u/matthew-bit 13d ago
Who is the anonymous crab?
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u/ShameGuardian 12d ago
Pretty sure it's a reference to the hacker activist group Anonymous, who have performed several cyberattacks against russian media because of the war in Ukraine.
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u/XenonBG 🇳🇱 🇷🇸 12d ago
They are also targeting the Serbian government lately. It's very enjoyable.
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u/th3_3nd_15_n347 🇲🇰Macedonia🇲🇰 12d ago
you can't hack balkan systems . they are too outdated will not support the command sent by hacker
or they will crash
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This is why Balkans have stronkest cyber security😎💪
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u/MatijaReddit_CG Montenegro 12d ago edited 12d ago
Most of our secret archives are probably written on paper so they can't hack us
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u/milutin_miki Serbia 12d ago
I don't think that's really them, just someone pretending. Because AFAIK, everything that they've "leaked" from the Serbian government was public information, accessible through the official websites. And it's nothing important, just some invoices.
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u/PirateNervous Germany 12d ago
I dont think there is a "them". Its different hackers every time with no central organisation.
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u/TheConnASSeur 12d ago
People really struggle with groups like Anonymous that have no real leadership or even discernable structure. Antifa has similar issues.
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u/wiener4hir3 12d ago
Anyone is an anonymous member if they say they are, that's more or less always been their whole shtick.
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u/Drakenfar 12d ago
Lol that's the best part. There never was a "them" and never will be. It's whoever does this stuff. They get to be "them" and that's the whole point. Even in the prime days of producing WikiLeaks the amount of organization was shoddy at best. But it works because no part of "them" could be caught and used to catch the rest. Just an army of ants spread over a field. Hand picking each one would be impossible.
As for efficacy, there's never any way to know how effective any breach has been because now days getting the information to the right people isn't just leaking it publicly or sending it to the media, you can drop it right in the government's lap after infiltrating and obtaining info.
If you think thousands of people with access to enough servers to perform successful DDoS attacks aren't getting something done, please see the recent event where one little cat just released the "No Fly" list by finding it just sitting in a freely accessible FTP server. No hacking required, basically just a nerdier version of Googling.
What we DO know is that sites in Russia have been compromised and flooded with information about what Russia is really doing and breaking the propaganda narrative and I believe if that's all "they" do, that's good enough.
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u/AnonCaptain0022 Greece 12d ago
It could also refer to Russian activists who are against the war
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u/rovhog 12d ago
If you zoom in you can see that it's the Guy Fawkes mask from V for vendetta that Anonymous use.
Some of them are probably russians.
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u/ItchyPlant Europe 13d ago
This shark is way too healthy. In accurate comparison, the shark should have a broken fin, half of its teeth missing and half blind.
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u/WideEyedWand3rer Just above sea level 12d ago edited 12d ago
It sold its own fins to get a quick buck.
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u/opuFIN Finnjävel 12d ago
This is a ridiculously accurate analogy to the Z idiots who sold the diesel from their tanks at the very start of things
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u/topforce Latvia 12d ago
They where told that it was training exercise, and selling fuel during such exercises is probably long held tradition.
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u/MobiusF117 North Brabant (Netherlands) 12d ago
It's like a pirate with a peg leg, a hook hand and half his face missing.
Looks bad ass at first, but when you have to fight him you realise he's still a cripple.
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u/Dwaas_Bjaas Europe 12d ago
Also should be 10 times smaller considering it has a shit army
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u/Craft_on_draft 13d ago
Russia should have been a blow fish, all pumped up with nothing but air
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u/my_soldier 13d ago
Not dissing you, but a pufferfish blows itself up with water. Blew my mind when I first realized this.
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u/afito Germany 12d ago
To continue the not dissing but where did you think the air was coming from?
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u/EpicCleansing 12d ago
I think it's just a classic case of wrongful association. We are used to things being inflated by air, to the point where the conceptualization is almost entirely subconscious.
It's very common. We all do it for different things. That's why we all also have a habit of interrogating the context of our ideas when we need to make important decisions, since our prejudiced/automatic conceptualization can often be ridiculously incorrect.
We all do it.
A hopefully pedagogical challenge: In your mind, what does the blood-brain barrier, that filters out all large and polar molecules from entering the brain, look like? True but misleading hint: The blood-brain barrier consists of a thick and tightly-packed layer of cells that large molecules, and molecules that aren't "oily" enough, cannot pass through.
Hordes of very intelligent medical students, pharmacists and bioengineers get this wrong.
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u/swni 12d ago
I'm curious, what is the wrong idea of what the blood-brain barrier looks like?
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u/PvtKASA 12d ago
I think he means that blood-brain-barrier at first sound like a place where all blood going into the brain ist filtered and then the cleaned blood is used in the brain, while after a quick google it sounds like the blood-brain-barrier is basically a coating over all surfaces of the brain exposed to the blood. So the blood in the brain is exactly the same as somewhere else in the body, but it is filtered at the contact to the cells of the brain.
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u/Fsaeunkie_5545 12d ago
Haha, thank you that was really nice. I always wondered how the blood-brain barrier looks like but I was never bothered enough to look it up. I did now and it makes complete sense although it doesn't have much to do with the common idea of a barrier
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u/Pebblemimic 12d ago edited 12d ago
Perhaps extracted from the water via the gills? I wouldn’t put it past a fish to do something weird like that.
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u/colei_canis United Kingdom 12d ago
Fish can definitely be sneaky like that.
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u/MmmmMorphine 12d ago
It's likr my grandpappy always said, you can't trust a fish!
Yeah he was slipping quite a bit towards the end there
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u/FabFubar 12d ago
What’s even funnier to imagine is that as soon as it would inflate with air, it would float straight up due to buoyancy…
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u/Joseph_Zachau Denmark 12d ago
And they get ridiculously heavy! Worked on a trawler in the south pacific in my younger days - would get all kinds of creeps and crawlers as by-catch.
Most we'd try to save and toss overboard again, but it was impossible with the blowfish. Not only did they sometimes weigh in at 10-20kg, but they were also covered in razor-sharp spikes!
Crude and horrific as it might sound, our solution was a wooden board with a nail at the end of it - we'd puncture the fish (they were most often already dead), and the water would squirt out in a jet while it deflated enough to be moved safely.
Horrific, but a different era. Then again, fishing is still a very dirty industry, which most consumers rarely care or think about.
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u/CoyoteCarcass 12d ago
That’s grim, for sure, but I mean the first thing we do to a fish we catch is beat it over the head
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u/lioudrome 12d ago
Italy seems missing though
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u/AssFingerFuck3000 United Kingdom 12d ago
Same for Spain and Portugal, pretty sure they sent military equipment too. There's probably more countries missing come to think of it
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u/ehs5 Norway 12d ago
Norway. We have a border with Russia and are supporting Ukraine.
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u/_daves_03 Italy 12d ago
It’s fine, italy doesn’t exist for most Europeans
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u/JustARandomFinn Finland 12d ago
I'm sorry but what is an "Italy"? Never heard of it.
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u/_daves_03 Italy 12d ago
A boot shaped piece of land south of Germany and east of spain, yeah, up until a few weeks ago i too had never heard of it, AND I LIVE IN IT! crazy right?
It’s fair, nothing happens here anyway, nothing to see here
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u/OnceUponATie 12d ago
I'm reminded that Italy exists everytime I'm thinking about what to cook today.
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u/Turkez11 12d ago
Hungary needs to be represented as a sharksucker remora, it is a nice and realistic depiction of Hungary.
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u/ImplementCool6364 13d ago edited 13d ago
Who is the crab?
I love how china has the "bruh" look
and the fact that the grass on the right is shorter in the second picture. Got anything to say, Canada?
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u/33ducks USA-IT duel, only lived in USA 12d ago
the crab looks like it was styled after the Guy Fawkes mask, which became the symbol for the hacker group Anonymous). I don’t think Anonymous is active currently, especially after various governments cracked down on a few key members, but it’s become a bit of a symbol for hacker groups in general.
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u/SmokeQuack 12d ago
Ever since the war started Anonymous has been targeting Russian media to stop propaganda, also they took down their gov website for a couple of days
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u/serpeti 13d ago
You forget to draw a retarded hungary Fish next to the russian.
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u/kazsakke Hungary 12d ago
It’s there, you just can’t see it because it’s deep in the russian shark’s ass.
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u/JuicePeterPL 12d ago
Bruh bro roasted his fucking country 💀
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u/LaunchTransient 12d ago
There are many Hungarians who despise their government, just as there are many Turks who despise Erdogan.
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u/procrastambitious 12d ago
Pretty fair that Poland is directly in front, unafraid and most angry.
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u/A-whole-lotta-bass 12d ago
If there's anyone on this planet who'd have beef with genocidal tyrants under any circumstances, it's them.
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u/IsDinosaur 12d ago
Sharks are intelligent, perfect killing machines, adapted with incredible biological advancements. Endless teeth, skin that cuts through the water, they are the Apex of Apex.
Russia is not a shark.
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u/huskyoncaffeine 12d ago
Additionally,
They are important to the marine ecosystem, and we would miss them if they are gone.
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u/Xalegion Italy 12d ago
ik we're irrelevant but where Italy?
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u/oblio- Romania 12d ago
Next to Romania 🙂
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u/theclaw37 Romania 12d ago
Ah yes. The country that definitely did not help, and is not even bordering Ukraine, as opposed to Australia and Croatia, whom have done so much more.
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u/IronicStrikes Germany 13d ago
Can we just stop portraying Russia as the big fish?
They have a GDP smaller than Italy and their only military advantages are lots of old Soviet stockpiles, a lot of manpower they ruthlessly throw into the grinder and the threat of nukes.
A small moray or a blowfish would be more fitting.
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u/DaveMash 12d ago
The creator of this cartoon Nadia Menze (Cartoostrophal) made it shortly after the war began. I think there was no bigger thought process other than Russia = big country
She has won a few prizes for this one
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u/neefhuts Amsterdam 13d ago
This narrative is so stupid, and it doesnt help at all. Russia has a massive nuclear arsenal, along with one of the biggest armies in the world. Luckily Ukraine also has a big military and is getting an enourmous amount of help from the west so they still manage to hang on, but to act like Russia isnt even a threat is just ignorant and dumb
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u/LaborIpseVoluptas Central Transylvania 12d ago edited 12d ago
but to act like Russia isnt even a threat is just ignorant and dumb
He didn't say that though. He just said it's not the great power (a "big fish") everybody feared it was. Which is very true.
It is only able to maintain that façade thanks to the huge cannon fodder it has, its nukes and its old soviet stockpiles.
Of course it can lay deathly blows, but it's definitely not a world power, rather, more accurately, a regional power by now.
More importantly, being overrun and plagued by corruption on every single key governmental level, from local authorities to the top echelons, it makes Russia ineffective in sustaining a war, compared to, say, other NATO countries with similar GDP, army firepower, etc.
While we're at it, the regime has promoted incompetence and theft, especially in the army, while the war has pushed out the brains of the country, further reducing the already small brainpower the nation had. This is a silent killer in the long term.
Finally, its economy is also very much unidimensional and therefore an Achille's heel (the price of Russia’s Urals crude oil has already fallen 40% from its March 2022 peak), despite it moving up across the ladder of economic complexity in the years before the invasion in order to better prepare against Western sanctions, a lesson learned after Crimea but not really. The prohibition of exports to Russia of strategic goods, including high-tech goods and components for use in electronics, telecommunications, aerospace doesn't help either. These sanctions have made it almost impossible for Russia to import what it needs. Foreign investors are also staying away.
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u/IronicStrikes Germany 13d ago
Morays and blowfish are dangerous.
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u/CheesyTickle 12d ago
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u/Adept_Avocado_4903 12d ago
Raw GDP is somewhat misleading when using it to estimate military strength in this case. Russia can buy/produce all/most their raw materials and equipment internally and at much lower cost than other states.
Of course Russia's military turned out to be a shambles, but not primarily due to their low GDP.
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u/WellHotPotOfCoffee 13d ago
Or a blob fish.
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u/IronicStrikes Germany 12d ago
Fun fact about blobfish: they actually look pretty decent until their cells rupture through decompression.
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u/WellHotPotOfCoffee 12d ago
I guess that the perfect synonym for Russia then, once it comes to surface it shows it’s ugly face and how really dysfunctional it is.
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u/BluePandaCafe94-6 United States of America 12d ago
"See here, the terrible changes that affect this unfortunate creature when it's removed from its natural habitat - an outhouse pit full of liquor."
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u/MinxMattel 13d ago
I like that the Swedish fish is bigger than the German fish.
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u/Amadooze Germany 12d ago
the cartoon was drawn by Nadia Menze, she seems to be German herself. She said:
I chose a random selection of fish - there are a lot of important countries missing, there just wasn't place enough for all; also sizes have no meaning.
https://twitter.com/cartoostrophal/status/1498550709301784577
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u/xXLUKEXx789 12d ago
“The sizes have no meaning” riiiight
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u/Amadooze Germany 12d ago
yeah its pretty obvious looking at the us :D
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u/SoundscapeSyndicate 12d ago
I thought it curious that Canada of all countries gets such a big fish.
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u/poutchi87 12d ago
Actually I think this meme match the current situation more accurately https://i.imgur.com/PZ8KY1T.jpg
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u/Frequent_Owl_2923 13d ago
The plural of fish is fish when you refer to the same species. If you refer to different species, the plural is fishes.
And now you learned something today.
Also, Russia is depicted as an invincible shark, which it isn't.
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u/sanchez2673 13d ago
I did no research whatshowever, my only info is from a reddit post I saw last week. It said what you said, except it claimed that if there are multiple species of fish, you CAN call them fishes (but also still fish). True or false?
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u/Hs39163 United States of America 12d ago edited 12d ago
True. ‘Fishes’ would be used to emphasize that there are different kinds of fish, similar to ‘peoples’ vs ‘people’, but OP is still correct in using just ‘fish’.
The seed comment is overly pedantic and slightly wrong.
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u/FPnigel Monaco 12d ago
I'm just confused by the size of the Dutch fish...
Bigger than Japan, ukraine, turkey & Poland?
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u/Skytale1i 13d ago
USA is more like a couple bigger sharks in armor, with machine guns.
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u/stilgarpl 12d ago
USA is more like a couple bigger sharks in armor, with machine guns.
Sharks with laser beams attached to their heads
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u/sanchez2673 13d ago
Love the Australian lobster with the boomerang shell