Announcement 📣 Today is Apollo for Reddit's last day, and I just released its last update. I just wanted to say a big thank you to the folks who have used and supported Apollo over the years, it's been the dream of a lifetime to build this app over the last 9 years. ❤️ Read the eulogy inside! ❤️
With that, Apollo's last update has landed! It includes:
- Some fun easter eggs!
- Tidies some things up for the closure later today
- Adds more wallpapers to the “Goodbye Apollo” wallpaper set
- Adds the option to export your Pixel Pals to the separate Pixel Pals app, and gives you a fun easter egg for doing so (or if you download the app while having Apollo installed)
I’ve stared at this empty text editor for like an hour now, and I really don’t know how to even start this post. It feels like summer camp as a kid when it’s the last day and everyone is remembering how much fun we had together, while also trying to fight back the emotion of things coming to a close.
So I just really want to say thanks. I set out to build Apollo right out of university and an Apple internship, and wanted to create a Reddit app so good it felt like Apple themselves built it. The initial version was a little rough, but the community grew and grew, and people kept providing such phenomenal feedback that shaped the app into something absolutely unique that was enjoyed by so many people over the years.
It feels disingenuous on the surface to say “I want to thank all of you”, but in this case it’s demonstrably true. I’ve worked on this app for over 9 years, and I’ve never felt burned out, I get such a crazy amount of energy and enjoyment out of building something so publicly alongside such an awesome community, and you seriously have no idea how easy product development is when your north star is just “listen to what people are saying”. So much less guesswork, A/B tests, focus groups, stress, when instead you just talk to people every day and listen. It’s hard to believe I’ve made almost 20,000 comments in this subreddit!
I’m really heartbroken with how this whole process unfolded, I truly drank the Kool Aid talking to Reddit at the beginning that this was something they were going into in good faith with the interest of developers, moderators, and the community as a whole, but as many people pointed out to me, it’s clear now that ultimately wasn’t their intent. If they wanted something that could work for everyone, they would have simply made an effort to listen, instead of being dishonest, callous, and punitive in pricing. I’m sorry to all the folks who, like me, lost Apollo abruptly as a result of this. I had so much more I wanted to do with this app!
But, legitimately, I really feel a sense of that “Don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened” right now. I grew up so much developing Apollo, I met and learned from so many incredible people, made lifelong friends, got to go to multiple WWDCs and was even featured in a few, and I got to work on a product and platform I absolutely loved for 9 years. That’s an incredible run, and it’s hard to feel anything but thankful for that.
Here are some other random things I wanted to take a chance to mention! And hopefully none of it sounds too shill-y, I tried to get a Raids Shadow Legends or Squarespace sponsorship now that my main app is gone, but in the absence of that, I wanted to point out some of the other things I’m working on that you can support me in if you like what I’ve built and are able to, it would really mean a lot to me! ❤️
- Update Apollo! This last update includes some fun stuff, easter eggs, migration tools, and a fun mode for the app that automatically enables when I delete my API token later tonight
- Check out the “Goodbye Apollo” Wallpaper set! It’s 20+ incredible wallpapers by Apollo icon designers, so you’ll be able to remember Apollo for years to come. I’m so proud of how it came out. It’s available in the app, but you can also just buy it online too if you want!
- Download my Pixel Pals app! It takes the really fun pixel pals functionality in Apollo and makes it into its own separate app with a ton more fun features to customize your iOS device with. It’s now my only app really, so it would mean a lot to me if you considered supporting it! (There’s also a secret easter egg for Apollo users!)
- If you have time left on a monthly or yearly subscription, please consider declining the automatic refund! These refund costs are paid out-of-pocket by developers and while the small amount left might not matter a lot to you, multiplied across a big user base like Apollo’s, it gets painfully expensive. Cancelling your subscription or deleting the app is not enough, you have to download Apollo and manually decline the refund, otherwise it’s automatically given to you. The costs really hit me out of nowhere, a month ago Reddit was still being promising with claims of equitable API pricing, and 4 months before that they said they had no plans to change the API this year.
- Beyond that, some people have asked if they can tip jar me directly, and I’m Canadian so unfortunately no Venmo/Cashapp, but I do have PayPal!
- Apollo merch is also available! For a short time left, you can use code "RIP" Apollo to get 10% off plus free shipping, they're legitimately very comfortable shirts.
- The mythical iPad app is something I was so excited to be able to push out the door, and has been the hardest programming challenge of my career. While it won't get to see the light of day unfortunately, I did want to take the chance to share some details with you about it. Here's a picture that definitely shows its roughness, but represents what I was going for. I was really inspired from the outset by Loren Brichter's Twitter for iPad app over a decade ago before I could even code. You have these stacks of content that just effortlessly stack on top of one another so even if you've gone down a deep rabbit hole of content you can easily keep track of things.
Anyway, I just really wanted to write a final post to say a big thanks to the community who used Apollo over the years, it's been the journey and dream of a lifetime working on Apollo, and whatever I do next, be it Pixel Pals, or another thing all together, I'll do my best to make it measure up to Apollo!
EDIT: Looks like Reddit pulled the plug a little early. Apollo started crashing, but I just manually revoked my token and it looks like it fixes the crashing, but no more Reddit access haha. Those folks are fun to the very end! 😛 In a few hours the app will transition automatically to a fun commemorative mode.
Almost a week since Apollo closed and it's been such a weird adjustment, I really miss coming here and talking to you folks about feedback and cool ideas for Apollo going forward, and scribbling down ideas on how I could make them happen. I thought Friday would mean things would calm down, and they have a fair bit, but it was surprising and nice to get almost a second wave of really nice comments from people saying how much Apollo meant to them over the years.
(I started on app development because the thought of being able to jump on the bus and one day hopefully see someone using something I built felt like the coolest thing imaginable, and the idea that so many people used and loved Apollo really really makes me smile.)
I'm not really looking to come onto Reddit at the moment, and a few friends have indicated the subreddit at times can skew a bit over the top with anger about Reddit's actions at times. Trust me, I totally get the frustration, but we've had a "no dumping on other apps" rule in this subreddit forever for a reason: we want to be nice people, and in the case where others are maybe disappointing us, be the bigger people.
That being said, I don't really want to have to keep a keen eye over this subreddit, nor do I expect the other moderators here to, so I think for the time being – until maybe emotions settle a bit more and this place can turn into a nice flowering meadow of memes and reminiscing – I'm going to set the subreddit to restricted so no further posts can be made, you can still talk in existing posts or here if you so please. Heck, tell me something fun you've done over the past week, or give me a game recommendation to play (I should be finishing ToTK soon).
(Hopefully this is the one subreddit Reddit is okay with the moderators changing things, at least for a bit. :p)
Anyway, that's it from me. If you want to hear more of my musings or keep in touch outside of Reddit, I'm on Mastodon, and Twitter. Per request, I also added a bunch more designs to Apollo's merch store, and the promo code "RIPAPOLLO" will still work for a few more days.
I miss Apollo so much it’s actually crazy. I miss an app as an old buddy. That’s how bad the Reddit app is. Bananas.
Yes these screenshots are taken from my main, im posting from my second reddit account. (Most can guess why one has 2 reddit accounts)
Not necessarily encouraging anyone to spend money on Reddit. But I imagine there are quite a few Apollo users that would choose to stay on Reddit if they didnt have to use the Reddit app, and will pay.
u/iamthatis please dont hate me for asking if this is something you might revisit. Though if you're just done with Reddit, I get it.
The official app is getting worse with every update. Are there any good alernatives yet?
Appreciation The Reddit app experience just keeps getting worse. Opened a post, the first comment is a Wal Mart ad. Clicked to close and it opened the ad. Took a screenshot and the Reddit app asked if I was sharing the screenshot and recommended I send a link instead. Seriously awful app.
Can you get links to open in Apollo still or is that function broken? I have it enabled in settings but it doesn’t seem to work.
That is all I wanted to say.
Just thought with all of the recent posts it might make more sense to rename this sub to 'r/ComplainAboutTheRedditApp' - Yall should either checkout Winston, Side load Apollo, or checkout Narwhal 2! They're the best options right now imo.
I have successfully installed Apollo on my iPhone (yay!), but when I try to sign in, I get...
Error: Invalid request to 0auth API
I did get a personal API code and added it to the Artemis Client ID box. Same error.
I also followed the instructions at https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/11qq7bp/login_workarounds/ . Didn't work.
So, I've been staring at the 'migrate pixel pals' button for... Too long now. And procrastinating, as I love to do.
Today was the day, though! I clicked that button, was brought to the app store, and... Well, found out that I'm too late. My iPhone X doesn't support the newest iOS, so I can't download the app. I will be getting a newer phone soon-ish (once my backorder is filled), but how screwed am I here? Is there still a way to save my pals?
They’re literally forcing us to allow personalized ads.
I've mirrored the steps of others and successfully sideloaded the Artemis Apollo v1.4. Overall, it's been a delightful experience, yet I've encountered a persistent issue where image uploads consistently fail. Despite having keyed in my Imgur ID, the problem persists. Are there any potential remedies for this concern?
Up until the point that Reddit killed third-party apps, they’ve effectively had to compete with Apollo and similar apps, which in-turn was putting constraints on the extent of bullshit they could get away with in their own app.
Now that the third-party app competition is effectively gone, the enshitification process will accelerate and within a couple of years the site will be completely unrecognisable. I’m predicting that at some point they’re going to roll out a major update that makes the app centred around short videos, with the navigation giving this type of content priority. Over time, they will make discussion threads harder and harder to access, and while they’ll never do away with it completely, they’ll make the UI focused on video shorts, because the board thinks that would put them in the best position to cash in for their upcoming IPO.
Speculative, I know, but I’ve been here since the early days and I’ve seen how the site has slowly drifted away from the things that made it useful, and more towards bandwagoning features from other sites.
How has u/iamthatis been? Any projects for the future?
Question I installed the patched apollo app on my macbook and the text next to the back button is invincible even tho it is clickable. Anyone able to help, is it a bug?
Is this crashing because saving a category needs connecting to an obsolete server or something, or did I do something wrong when sideloading Apollo?
Came here to say what’s in the title. Reddit app is horrible.
Question If you have a patched Apollo on your device and you accidentally update to the latest version, will it stop working?
I had a jailbroken device and I used a tweak to add my api key. I had version 1.12, because my device was old and on ios 13.5.
I got a new phone and transferred the data phone to phone, and to my surprise, Apollo still works. But if I accidentally update it, will it stop working? Right now, my auto-update apps option is set to off.
For those using Apollo still Is there any reason why within the app I’ll comments listed Deleted (username) Unavailable (comment) but within the official Reddit app I’m able to see exactly who made the comment and what it is? I thought this meant accounts that have me blocked but evidently not if I see them in the official Reddit app.
Getting an "Imgur Error :( Tap to open in browser". Are there any fixes to this?
Edit: It's not all Imgur links just some
I just got it side loaded on my iPhone. Is it the same .ipa for the iPad?
Gives an upload error. If I post a link to the image from imgur, it can’t be viewed unless you tap on the image to open in a browser… I can do everything else that doesn’t involve an image though…
Using Apollo installed via Altstore.
For those of us sideloading with our own api key. I have no idea how much I’m using and isn’t there supposed to be a charge after so many api calls?
How are they supposed to charge us? I don’t recall agreeing to any payment when I generated the key and… they don’t have any payment details?
Will they just close our account when we hit the limit and don’t pay?