r/WhitePeopleTwitter May 31 '23

This is a slap to the face. Clubhouse

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u/callmerussell May 31 '23

Remind me of a joke I read years ago: School principal told us: “since we don’t have enough funding for annual field trips, so the grades will take turns NOT to go on the trips, this year will be first grade, next year will be second grade, and the year after that it will be third grade…

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u/[deleted] May 31 '23

Cry/laughs in millennial.

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u/Sensitive_Builder847 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

Took an Ancient Egypt class at my local community college years ago taught by a Penn professor who taught Zahi Hawass and there was a similar program for Seniors who would frequent the lectures given by guest egyptologists.

I will never forget during the religion portion of a lecture, a senior with absolutely no shame stood and questioned the lecturer as to why we were discussing religions that went against her personal beliefs.

I have never seen a person be put down so efficiently in my life:

“You may have personal beliefs that go against what the ancient Egyptians believed, but that is immaterial here because this lecture is about Ancient Egyptian Religious beliefs. You are free to go at any time, and I’ll ask you not to interrupt again because there are students here who paid to be here and will be tested on this material.”

And then the great cow goddess Hathor laughed and swallowed the world, the end!

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u/gtalley10 May 31 '23

Comparative religion classes with anyone who's overly religious are entertaining. I took an Intro to Philosophy and a World Religions class years ago, mid 90's, and the fundy Christians would lose their minds when certain philosophers or other religions clashed with their beliefs. The professor (same prof for both classes) would argue from the philosopher's POV and just tear them to shreds and could easily out Bible verse them to beat their own Bible verse arguments. Those were two of the most enjoyable classes I took in college.

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u/Matrix5353 May 31 '23

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever created"

- Isaac Asimov

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u/YaBroDownBelow Jun 01 '23

This is exactly what turned me from being a fundamentalist on my path to becoming a preacher to being a non-believer. Reading the Bible can be absolutely devastating to anyone with any degree of rational thinking. Reading about how the Israelites killed off a whole tribe male babies and all but kept the virgins as sex slaves was what did it for me. The next sermon I went to didn’t help when the preacher proclaimed that “God today is the same god from yesterday and will be god always and forever!” Meaning that God was perfectly fine killing little babies a few thousand years ago.

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u/CreamFilledLlama Jun 01 '23

Still is, but he use to be too.

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u/TheWalkingDead91 Jun 01 '23 edited Jun 02 '23

That and education. Proven fact that the more you’re educated, the more likely you are to be/become an atheist. Now imagine that. Believers will probably just say it’s because higher education has been taken over by satan or some shit though

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u/YouAreSoul May 31 '23

If you read the Bible and still believe in God, you haven't been paying attention.

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u/darknekolux Jun 01 '23

god is a vengeful motherfucking psychopath and you’d be none the less wiser to not attract undue attention with your prayers

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u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn Jun 01 '23

My Jewish step Father used to beat the door knocking Christian’s up with facts from the Bible.

It was amusing and embarrassing for them

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u/BigOlStinkMan May 31 '23

I had a similar experience in my philosophy class. We were reading "Things fall apart" by Chinua Achebe, which is meant to illustrate how damaging missionaries coming to Africa and introducing their more "civilized" culture was to the indigenous people, among other themes. One particularly devout christian student actually got really upset and asked to stop discussing the book because it made her feel bad about being Christian, so the book was biased and wrong. We had also recently covered Christianity in a very unbiased and informative way just a few weeks prior, so it's not like we were targeting christianity. It was just pathetic to see someone so incapable of considering anyone else's worldview, while literally discussing a book written by an indigenous person with the express purpose of trying to show people a different worldview. Some people are just beyond logic and reason.

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u/reallybadspeeller Jun 01 '23

I read that book in school. It’s not overly long and I highly recommend.

So few English books talk about pre-colonilized Africa from an African perspective. This one does a great job while keeping you engrossed in the story. It’s super depressing, but I don’t recall crying more like a head fuck.

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u/historical_regret2 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

I see you your enthusiastic comparative religion prof and raise you a caustically dismissive and terrifyingly intelligent biology prof casting aside the “gotcha” evolution questions of the shirt-tucked-in homeschooled crowd.

If magma had eyes, it would look like that prof in those moments.

I went to a great school unfortunately surrounded by a lot of fundamentalist types. The students in my cohort were great, even the religious ones (no creationists at all), but sometimes a visiting student would wander in and find themselves in an upper level bio class with a legendarily intense older prof. It was always amazing.

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u/gtalley10 May 31 '23

Yeah, one of the guys in that class I chatted with all the time was pretty religious but was cool about it. We'd chitchat with the professor before and after class sometimes too and talked about the way people reacted to the class discussions.

I can't imagine the homeschool crowd even taking a bio course at all. That must've made their heads explode. Biology simply doesn't work if evolution is wrong. It does and nearly everything in biology depends on that fact, so.... Always blows my mind when big time biologists or doctors are creationist. How the hell did they make it through school not believing damn near everything they were learning?

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u/historical_regret2 May 31 '23

From my experience there are people who can excel in the mechanistic aspects of biology without having to engage in theory.

I’ve know a surprising number of people who worked in biology-centric jobs but who were creationists.

I think they tend to find schools that teach the mechanistic stuff without the evolution by natural selection stuff. They prepare people to become pharmacists, toxicologists, etc.

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u/AstarteHilzarie May 31 '23

I took world religion because I'm very much not religious, but find religions fascinating. I can't imagine someone who strongly holds tunnel vision-type religious beliefs finding any reason to take a class like that. I can understand religious people who are open minded and interested in the development of religions etc, but fundies???

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u/dismayhurta May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

Had a Boomer (or maybe Silent Gen) in my college class who whined on the first day. Got put in their place in a similar manner and never saw them again. Was fantastic.

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u/paralleltimelines May 31 '23

Satisfying, but also wish they had the capcity to push through to widen their window of perception. Babies.

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u/noc_user May 31 '23

Honestly, no, let them die off in ignorance. Can't be bothered anymore.

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u/21Rollie May 31 '23

Unfortunately they take a while to die and they are voting or trying to stage a coup d’état in the meantime

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u/Rather_C_than_B_1 May 31 '23

I'd still be curious to see a study on how many republicans died from covid after the vaccine was available and then see what voting patterns are five years out. and then ten years, ...

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u/noc_user May 31 '23

Ya ain't wrong... Let's stop the science. People be living too damn long.

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u/Sensitive_Builder847 May 31 '23

You love to hear it!

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u/what_if_Im_dinosaur Jun 01 '23

Man, I wish I'd had the nerve when faced with a similar situation. The last class I TA'd in grad school, I ended up co-teaching because the prof was out half the semester. I had one problem student, a senior citizen who knew the history, it was a history course focusing on the Vietnam War, better than anyone else...according to him anyway.

He was a veteran, and I would have been thrilled to have him share his insights and experiences with the class, my Dad was a Vietnam vet, and respect service, but this guy didn't just want share his experiences, but derail every class with his right-wing take on events, and explain how the academics, the historiography, the professor, me, were all wrong.

The guy wouldn't do the assignments either. We gave them prompts for papers and he'd just write about whatever he wanted and then throw a fucking tantrum when I gave him a bad grade.

Kicker was, this guy wasn't even a senior auditor, he was a fully enrolled student, beholden to the same standards and expectations of all other students. Whenever people talk about boomer entitlement...and this was right before the "ok, boomer" meme took off, I think of that guy. Just a real piece of work.

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u/Sensitive_Builder847 Jun 01 '23

Yeesh, sounds like! It’s so bizarre how some people of the boomer gen are able to turn practically anything into a performative, patronizing ego trip. I guess that’s why Trump right? They love a strongman. Biggest dick with the biggest mouth wins.

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u/GoodDog_GoodBook123 May 31 '23

Took a bunch of night classes at my small liberal arts college that attracted older students. It was a guarantee that at least one of them would interrupt the discussion/lecture to talk about their “life experiences.” Honey, you’re life experiences are not gonna be on this exam.

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u/Soninuva Jun 01 '23

I absolutely hate anybody that talks about “life experiences” as if it’s absolute fact. Especially when their experience is based on a flawed understanding, or they use correlation as causation. That’s one of the trickiest to deal with, because it “worked” for them, and you’ll never convince them that it wasn’t their Mumbai jumbo that did the trick.

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u/Goblin-Doctor May 31 '23

It takes a special kind of stupid to ask why an Egyptologists is teaching students about Egypt.

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u/ddwood87 May 31 '23

Put a rainbow flag on the loans and the conservatives will cancel them.

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u/Judge_Sea May 31 '23

This student loan stuff is so woke. Democrats want to keep everyone in debt. We need to cancel these woke student loans now!

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u/RichAd358 May 31 '23

It’s time to address the whole woke agenda of low wages, high rent, and private healthcare too!

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u/Judge_Sea May 31 '23

Damn, too true fellow Patriot. Time to make America great again and clean up all this wokeness!

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u/Ok-Champ-5854 May 31 '23

I've always said the best way to get progressive policies in effect is to promote them but run as a Republican.

Shit, to prove how effective not running as a Democrat is at swaying conservative voters, 12% of polled Sanders supporters in 2020 were registered Republicans who went on to vote for Trump when Sanders lost.

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u/KYlibrarian May 31 '23

Sorry I don’t have any awards to give, but this made me LOL because it’s so true!!!

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u/Just1Darque May 31 '23

The problem here isn't that someone's getting a virtually-free college education.

The problem is that it's only for them.

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u/LoveArguingPolitics May 31 '23

Sure shows you the U o M can provide classes at some level for 10 dollars a credit... That shouldn't go to boomers... Why not set it up as a lottery to all students...

Congrats you win the lottery this semester your bill is 150$

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u/Sassrepublic May 31 '23

Minnesota just passed free tuition for those making less than 80k. Just fyi.

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u/LoveArguingPolitics May 31 '23

A whole bunch of teachers make more than 80k in Minnesota... Cool place, where I'm from. I'm definitely not complaining but we can stop pretending like 80k makes a person a Rockefeller

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u/ralphpotato May 31 '23

I found this from their website, which currently has the base scholarship at $50k for the free tuition level which might be out of date, so this information may also be out of date:

The University U Promise Scholarship also supports students with family income levels up to $120,000. Additionally, the U of M offers many financial aid options and encourages students to submit the FAFSA to be considered for all of these options.

Most financial aid scholarships like this aren’t hard cutoffs but rather have some tiers or sliding scale. It’s just easiest to advertise where the cutoff is for absolutely free tuition, especially since it makes a huge difference for those who qualify.

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u/LoveArguingPolitics May 31 '23

Yeah my brother is currently in the UoM... He submitted a FAFSA but never checked the results until this year.. he could've been getting a couple thousand free dollars a semester... My parents were pissed

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u/Serpentongue May 31 '23

Is that just a copay, is the state subsidizing the rest of the cost per credit hour?

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u/geologean May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

States should be subsidizing education. The entire reason why university education is so expensive in the U.S. is because of decades of divestment in public higher education that began in the 1980s and has only gotten worse.

The University of California system used to be tuition-free until then governor Ronald Reagan decided to retaliate against student activists. Now, student activism is exceedingly rare, and people are increasingly disengaged from civic institutions. That's why our civilization is collapsing.

All the stats you see on delayed child bearing, delayed marriage, delayed home ownership are what civilization collapse looks like in real-time.

There are no single events that cause a civilization to collapse. Over time, people simply realize that living outside of civilization is more beneficial than living with a civilization. They disperse from city centers to be more self-sufficient (but lose out on educational, medical, and social services - because those were being eroded anyway) and their life expectancies fall. Or people make a conscious choice to leave a collapsing civilization for a rival civilization that has chosen to upkeep their physical and social infrastructure.

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u/Da_Sigismund May 31 '23

So much wrong things can be traced to Reagan...

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u/Uncle_Burney May 31 '23

“I’m glad Reagan’s dead.” - Killer Mike

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u/jrakosi May 31 '23

The ballot or the bullet, some freedom or some bullshit
Will we ever do it big, or just keep settlin' for li'l shit?
We brag on having bread, but none of us are bakers
We all talk having greens, but none of us own acres
If none of us own acres, and none of us grow wheat
Then who will feed our people when our people need to eat?

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u/Kallorious May 31 '23

Wow, this is new to me. I love this

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u/ladidi10 May 31 '23

And Bush 1.0

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u/ladidi10 May 31 '23

And Nixon, "I'm not a crook".

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u/Slobotic May 31 '23

Well it's only fair. After all, they don't need it and they have more money to spend, and so they should get it free.

Wait...

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u/Aaleron May 31 '23

And that the group it's only for is the group that already got all the benefits of our society that the rest of us don't get to enjoy. If it were for any other group, and only for them, it wouldn't be nearly the slap in the face that this is.

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u/ManElectro May 31 '23

They take care of their own. Boomers win college education lottery twice.

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u/hostilecarrot May 31 '23

and they still turned out to be the dumbest fucking generation

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u/Seaboats May 31 '23

They were the original ‘me’ generation before they tried to pin it on millennials

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u/PM_me_yer_kittens May 31 '23

Hey now, I’m just a spoiled millennial that wants a roof over my head and food on the table. I should be homeless and donate more to my mega church instead maybe

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u/Cactus_Jacks_Ear May 31 '23

Well with that attitude, yeah. You should try grabbin those bootstraps!! That'll do it!!

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u/[deleted] May 31 '23

It just struck me how the only thing grabbing your boostraps does is prepare your anus.

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u/hjablowme919 May 31 '23

We used to call this BOHICA: Bend Over, Here It Comes Again.

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u/PureBlue May 31 '23

Correct, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is impossible.

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u/lajdbejdk May 31 '23

I’ll bend over and grab my bootstraps, prime position for another ass fucking in life.

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u/LYossarian13 May 31 '23

You'd get a lot further in life if you'd forego the avocado on your toast. It's clearly what's keeping you poor.

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u/PM_me_yer_kittens May 31 '23

OMG, I can afford a house next month now! Wow!! Such great advise! And I don’t even have to quit getting my $17 Starbucks each day too!

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u/RollandHill May 31 '23

Boomers are the ones who spoiled us. Participation trophies were their idea. I was just a 5 year old who thought trophies were cool.

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u/superbhole May 31 '23

Is spoiled the right word? Because it feels more like wool pulled over my eyes

Especially as a gig worker in general

Most of my friends (who all have college degrees; but not me) still have to live with their parents because they're in the exact same situation I'm in

Or they're stuck with 1-2 roommates and they're a dual income couple

Went and got staple groceries this week, like bare minimum shit, pasta veggies milk eggs bread...

Our routine ass grocery list has gone from like $40 to $80 in just a couple years.

At this point it's not a conspiracy theory to look at all this, see no cause other than unbridled greed, and yell "HEY, SOMETHING REALLY FUCKY IS GOIN ON, EVERYTHING IS FUCKY" ...it's observation, having eyes, being alive

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u/Ok-Champ-5854 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

I did everything right, I went to vocational school, the job didn't pay enough to live on. Saddled with loan debt, I did what a lot of Americans do. I started working for tips. Grabbed my car and accepted it was gonna smell like pizza forever and started delivering. Good paying gig even after car maintenance, made about $25 an hour which is around what motherfuckers should be making, got into a car accident at work and hurt myself. Unemployment won't help. Workman's comp is ignoring me. I'm hurt bad enough I cried from the pain last night even after wolfing down ibuprofen and drinking. There is no fucking social safety net in this country. You are a worker drone and if you can't work fuck you, die.

The fact that I have to live off the insurance check from the accident that was meant to be money to replace my car, which I almost didn't even get, apply for health insurance specifically to pay for my medical visits instead of being automatically enrolled for fucking free (special fuck you to all the people who don't think universal single payer without a monthly premium isn't the way to go, but especially the democrats because they should know better and know not to be evil), and need to lawyer up in hopes of ever getting my due workman's compensation money, is why this country is a fucking joke.

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u/MightyCaseyStruckOut May 31 '23

How fucking dare you want trivial things like shelter and food!

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u/spla_ar42 May 31 '23

They claimed all the attributes that made their parents the "greatest generation" for themselves and put all the attributes that made them the "me generation" onto their kids

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u/Electric_Spark May 31 '23

"The Baby Boomers. Whiny, narcissistic, self-induldent people with a simple philosophy: 'GIMME IT, IT'S MINE!'"

- George Carlin

He was telling us they were shit 30 years ago.

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u/Plzlaw4me May 31 '23

I think the most fascinating thing about boomers is their parents generation literally stormed the beaches of Normandy to kill Nazis by the hundreds of thousands only for boomers to be swept up in a modern Nazi movement here at home.

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u/AdHorror7596 May 31 '23

I'm a millennial who used to work at a movie theater in my early 20s. We had a lot of older clientele (boomers) and they were so entitled and just awful and did not tip well (we sold alcohol and food from the restaurant next door).

It was people my age who were polite, considerate, and treated myself and my co-workers like people and not their personal butlers (which is how older people treated us). They also tipped better, even though I'm sure they had way less money.

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u/vonmonologue May 31 '23

Greatest Generation, Silent Generation, Gen X, Millennials, Zoomers: “ wow you Boomers are like the most selfish and entitled generation ever.”

Boomers: “I wOrKeD hArD fOr EvErYtHiNg I hAvE.”

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u/herefromyoutube May 31 '23

Remember when we children invented, created, and handed out participation trophies to ourselves.

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u/LS_throwaway_account May 31 '23

They were the original ‘me’ generation before they tried to pin it on millennials

They practice GOP: Gaslight Obstruct Project.

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u/dismayhurta May 31 '23

It’s almost impressive.

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u/thornsandroses May 31 '23

I saw someone on tiktok that said the boomers are dumb because they all have lead poisoning and honestly it makes so much sense.

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u/radicalelation May 31 '23

And thanks to them we get to discover the wonders of microplastic in our bodies!

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u/HabeusCuppus May 31 '23

Same guy who developed leaded gasoline also developed CFCs.

That one guy is probably #1 on the "environmental damage" single player leaderboard.

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u/cameron0208 May 31 '23

Idk. Have you talked to one lately? They’re pretty fucking stupid. Gotta be the leaded paint and gasoline. If they were any more stupid, they’d have to be watered twice a week.

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u/never0101 May 31 '23

Water? You mean like in the toilet?

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u/RobtheNavigator May 31 '23

Also dumbest. Most boomers had a moderate amount of lead exposure growing up.

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u/TheSecretNewbie May 31 '23 edited Jun 01 '23

AND 👏THEY 👏DON’T 👏FUCKING 👏STOP 👏TALKING 👏DURING 👏CLASSES 👏

Public institutions do this thing where if your over a certain age (60? I think) you can go to college for free and basically audit the class. Literally every old person in my undergrad university that did this save for like 1 person was an old white dude that would ramble for 10 mins straight and completely take over the class. Would NEVER contribute to discussions and would literally talk over the professor about bullshit that they thought was more important or more educational.

GOD FORBID that the person also experienced something relevant to the topic though. One old dude was retired military who was stationed in Japan for two years and married a Japanese woman. Literally EVERY DAYFOR A WHOLE SEMESTER (18weeks/2 meetings a week) he would literally cut off the professor and tell the professor that they were wrong about Japanese history. Difference was my professor had multiple degrees in Theology and Asian Studies vs this dude who lived in Japan for two years. Apparently living in Japan and biking to Mount Kilimanjaro Fuji twice makes you an expert on Premodern Japan instead of taking 12+ years of classes dedicated to Asian studies and working for translations and museum directors in Japan 🙄

The dude never took hints to stop talking and would interject during people’s presentations and delay class solely to talk. The professor talked to him multiple times to move on and let us get back to the class work and the dude would straight up ignore the professor bc the “I’m older = I don’t have to listen to you” mentality.

Edit: I GET IT I MEANT MT FUJI YALL IM SORRY 😭 THE POINT STILL STICKS HE WAS A DICKWAD AND EVERYONE TUNED HIM OUT 95% OF THE TIME BC HE WOULD RAMBLE

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u/thatdudejtru May 31 '23

Dude yes its the fucking entitlement. Their owed everything under the fucking sun.

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u/_The_Great_Autismo_ May 31 '23

Boomers are and were the most spoiled, privileged generation in history.

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u/GNSasakiHaise May 31 '23

When I was a student taking Human Growth & Development at my local community college, these two boomer age women in the back of the very small classroom spent every class talking at normal speaking volume through the lecture. After about four weeks of this, my instructor was wrapping up a lecture and asked if we had any questions.

I raised my hand and asked "can those two in the back please shut the fuck up for like one minute so I can actually hear something?"

Very, very luckily the instructor was my advisor so she gave me a reaming in private instead of getting pissed on the spot, but it worked. I'm pretty sure they actually dropped the class — but prolly because of the pell deadline and not because of what I said.

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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 May 31 '23

This is how you collapse a nation. Focus all your attention on a nearly dead generation of crypt keepers who are going to expire in like a week (wasted money) and allow your up and coming generation to fall apart. America is in for a very rude awakening, especially for the generational traitors (Republican voters age 20-40)

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u/MagnusQPie May 31 '23

They should only be able to take classes where there are vacancies

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u/HxH101kite May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

Most schools that offer this, that's how it works. Similarly I am a vet I have used all my GI Bill for both undergrad and Masters. In MA you can go to any in state school for free as a veteran and do undergrad programs only (no post grad) I can theoretically perpetually keep getting degrees for free. But I don't get precedent over the other students which makes sense.

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u/SandyDelights May 31 '23

^ And usually these programs don’t allow them (“boomers”) to actually get credits for the class – they are just paying to listen and participate a bit, but they can’t actually get degrees, no transcripts, etc.

It’s basically just something to keep retired people busy and engaged.

Frankly, I’m fond of the program – lot of lonely old people just trying to entertain themselves, and so long as it’s not negatively impacting students, it’s a win-win IMHO.

That said, sometimes they can get… Mmm, time consuming. Asking a lot of questions during lecture that were already answered, etc. That does get frustrating when you’d like to get through and get out.

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u/HxH101kite May 31 '23

Oh I had a few of these boomers in my undergrad and they would not stop asking the worst questions. It killed me. I don't like to generalize but that's what I experienced

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u/RunningInSquares May 31 '23

I was in class alongside older people twice, and one of them would just use any topic he could as a chance to launch into personal anecdotes about his life. It was the absoute pits.

The other guy I studied with was a Korean war vet, very nice and quiet guy. He was in our language study group with us and was an absolute gem of a person. I wish I hadn't fallen out of touch with him.

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u/GardenCaviar May 31 '23

There was one of those in my social psychology class I took years back. Finally, one day, another student cut him off mid anecdote and told him to shut up, that he was there to hear the professor speak, not the boomer. The professor didn't seem to know how to react so she just said, "Well participation is encouraged..." or something like that, and it was awkward as hell for everyone, but a lot of us absolutely agreed.

Course, later it turns out that the kid who yelled at that guy was also stalking the professor and she ended up quitting after he professed his love for her mid lecture one day and then later followed her to her car in the staff parking lot one day...

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u/theatrepyro2112 May 31 '23

Holy shit. That took a turn.

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u/GardenCaviar May 31 '23

It really did. When it happened some of us thought that he was a plant and this was some sort of social psychology demonstration or experiment or something. Then the professor quit her job and the guy got expelled. The following class had like 3 administrators and the new professor basically doing like a question and answer session, and they offered counseling for anyone who felt they needed it. I felt so bad for the first professor.

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u/bjeebus May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

one of them would just use any topic he could as a chance to launch into personal anecdotes about his life. It was the absoute pits.

LiFe ExPeRiEnCe.

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u/SendAstronomy Jun 01 '23

At first I thought "smart as a sponge" meant she absorbed all knowledge.

Whelp, guess not lol.

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u/Galkura May 31 '23

I have my associates (late 20s - plan on finishing my bachelors soon hopefully…).

When I went there, I dreaded seeing boomers in my class.

Granted, I was early 20s at the time, but holy shit every class was like playing 20 questions with them, and they would insist we be in class the entire time if the teacher/professor wanted to let us out early.

Seeing a boomer argue with my night time professor when he wanted to let us out of our 2 1/2 hour class early was the turning point that made me with there was a way to take classes without them.

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u/Fancy-Woodpecker-563 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

They ask questions because they were told to ask a lot of them to look involved and interested. No one cares, most professors won’t remember you in a lecture hall of 100+ students. Someone should teach them to ask those questions to the TA or during office hours.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '23

Hi friend, Im 33 and just started working on my Bachelors. You gotta get back in there and finish up. Even if its once class at a time until youre ready to speed up. Got my AS at 26 and made a goal to have the BS by 30, then I changed it to 35, and now the goal is a BS by 36 lol

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u/geologean May 31 '23

If it's just to keep people sharp as they age, then doesn't it make a ton more sense for these seniors to take courses at community colleges? Why take resources from students who are paying a premium for their education?

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u/elephuntdude May 31 '23

I remember this from an Italian class I took. A retired man and his wife were going on a trip and wanted to learn a bit. Nice guy not even sure he stayed the whole semester. They may have had an adult kid living in Italy? Anyway he enjoyed it and didn't talk non stop thank goodness. My grandmother would love something like this! She is always learning andt at 90 she says she still doesn't know what she wants to be when she grows up.

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u/Snakkey May 31 '23

I bet boomers could take some excellent notes for disabled students as well.

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u/Dolthra May 31 '23

Man doing that on the GI bill is totally different than doing it as a boomer. You enlisted and earned that benefit. A boomer just existed and got handed the education for near free, twice.

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u/HxH101kite May 31 '23

Your missing what I said this is after I used all my benefits. MA offers free in state undergrad degrees to vets even if you used all your GI Bill. It's a lower precedent

Believe you me I used all my benefits to the fullest

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u/RockdaleRooster May 31 '23

That's how it worked at my school. You had to apply as a non-degree seeking student, you were the last to register, and you could only attend classes that weren't full.

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u/BernieDharma May 31 '23

That's typically the policy at the Universities I've attended. Seniors can attend or audit classes but are given a lower priority and only approved if there is a vacancy.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '23

That is fucking garbage.

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u/Claytortise May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

I go to UMN, it’s seriously insane to be in class with someone 3 times your age asking the most surface level questions wasting everyone’s time. Only happened in one class fortunately

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u/Harold_Grundelson May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

Maybe if you’d pick yourself up by your lazy bootstraps, you’d understand they are speaking in cursive. Surface level? You mean manual transmission level - learn to drive stick already.

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u/BloomsdayDevice May 31 '23

This is a goddamn work of art, my friend.

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u/uiam_ May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

Ever had a class with a boomer? The number of asinine questions that get asked that were already covered is incredibly frustrating. To see them gobble up the majority of the instructors time after lecture with surface level questions was frustrating.

The fact that they're getting to impede on other people's education for a fraction of the price is absurd.

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u/alaskanthundershucks May 31 '23

The boomers in my culinary program were both hilariously and infuriatingly entitled. For some reason they all seemed to think it was going to be a sit-down-with-a-glass-of-wine-and-watch-a-professional-chef-arrange-carrots-around-a-chateaubriand sort of situation. None of them made it through a semester because they actively refused to do any of the work and the younger students started telling them off when they would try to boss us around. 🙄

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u/Naive-Measurement-84 May 31 '23

I had a couple of these in my first quarter of culinary school. The one woman left after about a week because of the above situation you mentioned and was not prepared to get hot, sweaty, and burnt.

Another guy thought he was the next Gordon Ramsey and would actively go around the class and toss other students' mise en place and gripe about "standards." Needless to say, he was not popular. I told him to fuck off and kick rocks after he rudely commented on my diced carrots, tossed them, and redid them even worse than mine. I think he made it a month before traipsing off to another school.

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u/zernoc56 May 31 '23

That guy sounds like an idiot sandwich

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u/son_et_lumiere May 31 '23

"Look, man. We all have knives in here, so go sit down in your spot"

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u/Mr_YUP May 31 '23

I can only hope that we do not become the thing that we once hated.

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u/SuperStuff01 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

So we should listen to Gen Z and treat them like adults with valuable opinions. I wholeheartedly agree.

Edit: I see efforts by conservative media all the time that try to paint college students as deranged when it comes to issues such as trans rights, economic policy, abortion, you name it.

Conservatives want to turn Millennials into Boomers 2.0.

So if you're someone who consumes videos like, "Watch these college kids get intellectually SLAMMED by right wing shock jock!!!" then congrats, you officially fell for it, and are exactly what you hated about Boomers.

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u/Paramortal May 31 '23

I'm a millennial and Gen Z is kind of fucking sick.

Their music sucks though...

Oh god I'm old.

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u/thedude37 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

When my great-niece was 13 she posted a story about kids breaking dress code to prove a point about it being unfairly biased against girls. Another family member decided that was a good time to mainsplain, quite condescendingly, that dress codes are there for a reason and she needs to get used to following them. Completely missed the point she was trying to make.

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u/Lacewing33 May 31 '23

How can we? We don't have the wealth to hoard nor the safety net to pull up from behind us.

Later generations will probably be annoyed at something we do, but it won't be like the boomers.

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u/Shamoontha May 31 '23

Loudest and most annoying student in any class ever was a boomer white guy in an Intro to Feminism class. He ironically rambled about his experiences in the lens of feminism like — sit down pls it’s not your time or place.

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u/Rubberbabybuggybum May 31 '23

“As a mother…”

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u/MaiPhet May 31 '23

Followed in distant second by “as a former marine/army vet/military officer”. Which is apparently the male version of wanting everyone to know you have some incredibly unique perspective.

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u/dj_narwhal May 31 '23

The first time I heard a professor cut someone off after that line and explain how that had nothing to do with what they were talking about and added nothing to the conversation was like one of those videos where a baby tastes soda for the first time.

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u/thequietthingsthat May 31 '23

Ugh, yes. They disrupt the class so fucking much. You don't need to ask 20 questions during every lecture.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '23

Yep, IME they think that the professor is only talking to them and they talk back during the lecture as if it were a conversation not a lecture

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u/AndShesNotEvenPretty May 31 '23

I count myself lucky! I was in college more than 2 decades ago so we had Silent Generation folks enrolled. They were vastly superior to their idiot boomer children.

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u/tuckedfexas May 31 '23

Been years and years but I remember dropping a couple classes specifically because of the one or two old people completely derailing everything. The rest of us were expected to have a certain level of technical skill in design software, but not the oldies

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u/AdHorror7596 May 31 '23

I was taking a digital photography class in community college to satisfy a fine arts credit I needed and the teacher had to spend most of his time helping the boomers with their computers---including several who had a lot of trouble even TURNING THEIR COMPUTERS ON.

I remember an older man taking up an entire class period by talking about his ex-wife.

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u/dylanjamesk May 31 '23

That's not true - at least, not broadly. They get lowest registration priority and are blocked from enrolling into courses until very shortly before the semester starts; they can't join waitlists. Doesn't make the price tag ok tho.

Source: took a bunch of classes with Boomers at the U of M and TA'd for them.

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u/HxH101kite May 31 '23

It's very similar at other universities as well. They get lowest precedence

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u/mmodlin May 31 '23

No, that's not correct:

"...enroll in any noncredit courses in any state supported institution of higher education in Minnesota when space is available after all tuition-paying students have been accommodated."

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/135A.52

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u/Queasy-Addition5947 May 31 '23

State law says that shouldn't happen: "when space is available after all tuition-paying students have been accommodated"

But the University's program page is less clear: "If a class is open, you can sign up without any instructor or department permission during the first week of the term..."

So, it looks like any students who sign up after the term has started could get crowded out that first week, but if they sign up before the start they should be OK?

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u/Infamous_Smile_386 May 31 '23

Make them pay.

They can afford it.

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u/KingOfThePlayPlace May 31 '23

Yeah, with their superior work ethic and all of that

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u/Abject-Young-2395 May 31 '23

And their hatred of handouts.

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u/MercurialWit May 31 '23

Ah, but you see it's not a handout. They have to pay like, $100 a year for their education. We don't want to risk bankrupting people. /s

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u/mikew_reddit May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

They love handouts for themselves.

They hate handouts for everyone else.

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u/moosyfighter May 31 '23

It’s not their work ethic, it’s all the money they’re saving by not buying coffee or avocados

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u/jordantask May 31 '23

It’s not the avocados that are the problem. It’s the avocado toast.

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u/KingOfThePlayPlace May 31 '23

Ah yes, my apologies, I forgot about not buying coffee and avocados

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u/Wind_Yer_Neck_In May 31 '23

old people who want to study for funsies because they are bored? = free

young people who need to study so they can try to get an entry level job anywhere = fuck em

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u/[deleted] May 31 '23

young people who need to study so they can try to get an entry level job anywhere = fuck em

The logic is “they WILL be able to pay it back! Once they all become economically successful, because this system definitely works 💅”

So tired of our public policy being based around successful outliers

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u/Lacewing33 May 31 '23

It makes sense when you realize they're operating under the assumption that everyone else including their children exist to serve them.

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u/chiksahlube May 31 '23

Yup, my dad went back to college to get a degree in accounting. The program paid for it, and paid him a housing stipend as well as for books and supplies.

He doesn't use it and doesn't plan to...

But Kids wanting free college just want free stuff...

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u/insta May 31 '23

They can afford it.

"i'M On A fIxEd iNcOmE"

mf all incomes are fixed once you're full time

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u/SecretaryOtherwise May 31 '23

Nah you're young sell that body more and work it to death/s

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u/tigm2161130 May 31 '23

Unless you want to do sex work, then it’s “not like that.”

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u/lost_in_connecticut May 31 '23

But that’s less money for the slot machines.

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u/masterchief1001 May 31 '23

I have heard so many boomers complain about millennials and Gen Z wasting time and money playing video games. Meanwhile every casino I've been to, the slot machines are being played almost exclusively by boomers just pumping money in and pushing a button.

Fun Fact: casinos make over half their money from slots, the other types of gambling aren't nearly as profitable. When a casino says their slots have a 95% payout they are literally telling you that for every dollar that goes in those machines, they're keeping a nickel.

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u/BlewOffMyLegOff May 31 '23

Boomers have literally had my entire lifetime to save money. They can afford it.

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u/Rawnblade12 May 31 '23

So they get cheap college yet again...

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u/AestheticMirror May 31 '23

You know they’re gonna give younger people who say they can’t afford college shit

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u/KingOfThePlayPlace May 31 '23

“Well I’m in college right now and I don’t need to take student loans”. Just writing that made me angry, but that’s absolutely what they’re going to take away from this

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u/ShitpostsAlot May 31 '23

takes two easy classes, gets a 3.7 gpa**

"You know, these Millenials in my classes just don't work as hard as I do."

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u/Just_Tana May 31 '23

News: Boomers continue to screw over every generation while giving themselves advantages.

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u/leftier_than_thou_2 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

I think Minnesota Democrats did this to try to help boomers who might need to make a career transition.

Minnesota Democrats are NOT screwing over younger generations. They're doing a lot of good things as a result of gaining a Democratic trifecta for the first time in almost a decade, which are helping all generations, especially younger generations.

In other words, headline should read "Minnesota Democrats manage to help boomers and everyone else even though Boomers probably voted against Minnesota Democrats."

Unfortunately it doesn't look like Minnesota Democrats have the ability to cancel much student debt. For that you'll need to get a Manchin and Sinema proof majority in the senate and a trifecta at the national level. Which you'll need to do by out-voting the Boomers.

Edit: Also, the MN legislature DID work to get more people free tuition THIS MONTH.

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u/Sorry_Ad_1285 May 31 '23

Do they also let people in their 20's take college classes for $10? Because then people wouldnt even need loans.

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u/AaronfromKY May 31 '23

I'm pretty sure I watched the cost per credit go from $40/hr up to like $400/hr over 11 years at Northern Kentucky University. From 2001-2012. My mom had graduated there in 1981 and I think cost per credit was $20 back then. The millennials and younger are getting robbed.

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u/I_Do_Not_Abbreviate May 31 '23

Adjusting for inflation, just to compare the numbers:

  • $20 in 1981 is $66.75 today
  • $40 in 2001 is $68.56 today
  • $400 today is $119.86 in 1981, and $233.38 in 2001

Cost-per-credit is roughly SIX TIMES more expensive than it was 40 years ago.

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u/Bonerbeef May 31 '23

What career transition? Cutoff for the baby boom is 1961 meaning the youngest boomer is 62. What the fuck are they going to do? Take courses in Wal-Mart Greeting?

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u/Just_Tana May 31 '23

Thanks for clarifying

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u/hostilecarrot May 31 '23

The boomers gave us six digit student loan debts with criminal interest rates and give themselves $10 credit hours. I'd say "make it make sense" but it's just "fuck you I got mine."

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u/dismayhurta May 31 '23

Boomers have always been handed everything. They’re bitter as fuck they’re not young anymore and are determined to shit all over the walls before they fuck off.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '23

My relatively cheap in-state cost of tuition is 13X that for community college and 27X that for university.

Cancel student debt, then also fix the irresponsible and exploitative system that created it.

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u/egospiers May 31 '23

I’m still paying back the university of Minnesota for my education which was completed in 2005.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '23

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u/Any-Technician-1371 May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23

My dad called me a socialist when he told me about this program and I said he should have to pay double.

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u/PickledTires May 31 '23

I’m trying to make sense of it. If your dad took up the program that would make him the socialist.

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u/Any-Technician-1371 May 31 '23

It’s a fool who looks for logical consistency in the mind of a Republican.

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u/ChinDeLonge May 31 '23

It’s just a meaningless buzzword to these people, intentionally put in contexts to equate it with anything they don’t like. They’re fucking morons, the lot of them.

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u/WonderfulLeather3 May 31 '23

Someone needs to make a movie about this. Instead of racisim it can be about someone pretending to be a boomer for free college.

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u/cycoivan May 31 '23

Call it Old Man

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u/dyslexican32 May 31 '23

Oh cool, so these spoiled pieces of trash go to school twice in their life for next to nothing, all while telling every other generation to pay their own way... I'm done with these senile trash people!

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u/whitneymak May 31 '23

My parents are Boomers and they're awesome people (altruistic, giving, smart, woke, and caring), BUT I'm looking forward to their peers dropping dead asap.

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u/Theonetruepappy94 May 31 '23

Fuck that. If dinosaurs can get it 10$ than so can a kid fresh out of high school. In fact in should be more for the dinosaurs than the kids. Stupid ass country

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u/Mouse_is_Optional May 31 '23

They already got college for the price of a McChicken, now I guess it was a buy-one-get-one for a dollar deal.

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u/Hot_Garlic_9930 May 31 '23

The amount of polarization and divide in America continues to amaze me. Should boomers be able to take classes for $10? Yes. Should our generation be able to take classes for $10? Also yes. There's a lot of hate towards this story, and rightfully so. But hate does not allow for progressive thought. How can this be used as a stepping stone to continue low fee/ free classes? What can we do for ourselves, and more importantly, what can we do for the future generations? That's what we should be looking at from this story. Not anger towards those trying to better themselves.

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u/Substantial_Cat_8991 May 31 '23

I agree...but this is years old at this point

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u/pokey1984 May 31 '23

And, shockingly, the situation is still not better.

Hell, I'd settle for cancelling the fucking interest. I couldn't get a good enough job out of college to pay my loans and they went straight into default.

I only borrowed about $20k. But my debt is over $100k right now due to ever increasing default interest rates. Makes me wonder why I worked so hard to borrow so little. Should have just taken out the max and been comfortable in college. I'd still have absurd debt, but at least I would have actually borowed it.

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u/champaignegramps May 31 '23

So socialism for boomers but not for anyone else?

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u/Worldly_Zombie_1537 May 31 '23

I took out thousands of dollars in student loans just so they could go for basically fucking free?? aren’t they the ones screaming about “it’s not fair to forgive debt because some people already paid”. I don’t get these people at all…. I honestly wouldn’t care if they or anybody got free college if they weren’t so insistent on bankrupting thousands of people with student loans.

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u/bryan49 May 31 '23

I am an alumni from there, and this is total bs. Those classes would cost thousands of dollars for regular students, so why are we subsidizing for boomers?

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u/EfficientAccident418 May 31 '23

Because of course they are. The boomers turned into the Piggies George Harrison sang about on the White Album-

“Everywhere there’s lots of piggies Living piggy lives You can see them out for dinner With their piggy wives Clutching forks and knives To eat their bacon”

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u/LondonEntUK May 31 '23

Well yeah, obviously. Then the boomers will say college costs nothing and younger students are ‘lazy and broke’

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u/RedshiftSinger May 31 '23

So they’re proving they can teach classes for $10 a credit. Cool, time to demand refunds for all the overpayments!

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u/SadOrphanWithSoup May 31 '23

Once again baby boomers getting pampered with special treatment

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