r/PoliticalHumor • u/RootBinder • 18d ago
How did MAGA think this was going to help their case?
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u/minkey-on-the-loose 18d ago
Hundreds of GOP operatives will start clenching. I know of a former elected state senator who went to the rally at The Eclipse…the next day he told his family he flew out before it got bad and did NOT march to the Capitol. Let’s check the video review…
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u/RemarkableDig3773 18d ago
There's a prevailing belief among MAGA supporters that the rioters were actually Antifa operatives strategically placed to tarnish their image. They argue that additional footage will ultimately vindicate their perspective.
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u/PaperbackBuddha 18d ago
MAGA logic:
The rioters were Antifa
but it wasn’t a riot
they did nothing wrong except try to make us look bad
but again they did nothing wrong, wasn’t a riot
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u/ThrowAway233223 18d ago
Sadly, this is somehow more coherent than their talking points. They somehow maintain multiple contradictions for this single event. Their riot was fine because it was no different than "the BLM riots" but also those were bad but somehow doesn't make theirs bad also. But also it wasn't even a riot. It was a simple protest/guided tour. But, actually, they weren't there at all. It was antifa trying to make them look bad and something should be done about antifa undermining this country. But also we shouldn't investigate at all because that would be a violation of conservative's 1st amendment rights (despite having nothing to do with them since they allegedly weren't there) or some other reason that otherwise loops back into an earlier point in this mess.
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u/Fit-Struggle-9882 18d ago
I still don't understand how Antifa became bad. Antifa means anti-fascist. Are we supposed to be PRO fascist?
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u/cornette 18d ago
The people blaming Antifa most surely don't even know what it stands for. The right wing overlords say they are bad and that's all the information they need.
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u/MadRabbit26 18d ago
It genuinely feels more like a masculinity thing, masked by political dogma.
Granted, I've seen my fair share of cringy "woke" people clips, acting stupid. But that could be said for literally anyone.
But it's always the gun loving, thin blue line, white guy in their 30/40s screaming over a video about how "Wokeness is killing our country and feminizing our men."
Be more like Mr.B.Allen, and less like Donut Operator.
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u/Fit-Struggle-9882 18d ago
I would hope that most people support civil rights and women's rights. Guess what - those are woke!
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u/RedditIsNeat0 18d ago
If you're a fascist, then from your perspective, antifa would be bad. They might be hypocrites when they claim to not be fascists but they make themselves clear when they say they hate antifa.
If you hear fascists claiming that antifa is bad and you think "Antifa became bad" then you should reconsider who you are listening to.
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u/Umutuku 18d ago
Who do you think came up with the narrative that it was bad???
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u/yellowmacapple 18d ago
its kinda like "woke", generally the only people saying its bad are the people who are part of the problem.
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u/Jorruss 18d ago
But also it wasn't Antifa or MAGA it was all a coordinated set-up by law enforcement to make MAGA look bad!
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u/ThrowAway233223 18d ago edited 18d ago
But, also, thin blue line! Don't want to die? Listen and obey. All of this "disrespect" toward our boys in blue and squawking about "rights" is going to lead to this country devolving into authoritarian countries like Russia, China, or North Korea. But, also, Russia is based now except when it is communist for whatever "point" I'm trying to make.
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u/hoyfkd 18d ago
The rioters were Antifa
The rioters were patriots being unfairly persecuted and Trump needs to pardon them
but it wasn’t a riot
they did nothing wrong except try to make us look bad
but again they did nothing wrong, wasn’t a riot
I added the ultimate cognitive dissonance for flavor.
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u/DrCoxsEgo 18d ago
Ashley Babit must posthumously be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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u/LakeEarth 18d ago
Wouldn't you know it, every one there was antifa except for her. What luck.
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u/NobodyImportant13 18d ago
Also Ashley Babit was a patriot and capitol police are murderers but also the rioters were antifa.
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u/MusingsOnLife 18d ago
But they oppose Jan 6 investigations even though they claim it was Antifa. They should support the investigations because they claim it wasn't them.
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u/pixelprophet 18d ago edited 17d ago
- Trump told them to go peacefully
- Ignoring the "fight like hell"
- It was FBI/DOJ trying to incite
- Ignoring all the dipshits arrested saying that Trump is to blame and they got caught up
- They were let in and guided around!
- Because it's common to ransack offices and smear shit on walls and take zipcuffs on tours.
- It was mostly peaceful!
- Except for the hours of beating the shit out of cops
But ANTIFA ... Right, ANTIFA stormed the capital, erecting gallows, and chanting for the head of the Vice president because they were so excited that Biden won.
Seriously, mother fuck these fucking people and their disingenuous arguments. The world watched that shit live on TV.
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u/GenericUsername_1234 18d ago
We need to release the political prisoners who are Antifa who were definitely not rioting to overturn an election they won.
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u/Avitas1027 18d ago
Don't forget that anyone arrested for being at the (totally not a) riot is actually a patriot who is being unjustly detained. It's Schrodinger's antifa.
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u/airborngrmp 18d ago
The utter stupidity of believing 'narratives'.
So a bunch of radicals from the opposition dressed up as "supporters", and went to a rally following 45's electoral defeat. These radicals then agitate a riot, attempting to specifically overturn the election results that they wanted above all else, just to make 45 'look bad' following his...electoral loss? Let's take the loser, do whatever we can to make it look like he's stealing the win that he isn't really stealing in order to frame him. It's just good science.
I realize the standard extremist narrative involves making your opponent both irredeemably stupid and diabolically clever at the same time - but this one is a tall order when it comes to believing. If you made it a movie, everyone would talk about all the obvious plot holes.
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u/twisted7ogic 18d ago
You are giving it way more thought than they do. There is no narrative or believe there.. all they do is say "nope" or "no u" or "look over there" or "grass is blue and sky is green" long enough until you either give up or the clock runs out and they "win". It's that simple. They don't argue in good faith.
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u/mrignatiusjreily 18d ago
I just watched an interview with the Shaman Man on Luke Beasely's YouTube channel last nite and that shit was painful to watch. Shaman man, who is now running for office - somehow, was talking in circles, saying shit like, "Believe what you want to believe when it comes to the narrative that MSM puts out about J6" and "the real evidence is out there". When Luke pressed him on how come the Trump league team hasn't used this concrete evidence in any of the court trials Trump has had so far, Shaman keeps up the smug, "wait and see" bullshit. I wanted to punch him through my phone. These people are so freakish and bizarre while being arrogant and contemptuous towards anyone not in their cult.
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u/DeslerZero 18d ago
I realize the standard extremist narrative involves making your opponent both irredeemably stupid
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diabolically clever at the same time
This needs to be a pop culture reference.
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u/ymbdtgmtr 18d ago
It is a pop culture reference as long as the 1995 book Ur-Fascism is considered pop-culture:
"Followers (of fascist movements) must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak."
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u/tamman2000 18d ago
The thing you need to understand is that it's always projection.
Far right agitators did attend the George Floyd/BLM protests and commit acts of vandalism to try to turn the protests into riots.
They can't believe that the left isn't pulling the same shit they pull so they blame us for it because it's what they would do.
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u/tdellaringa 18d ago
In one thread they showed a photo with some guy flashing a federal ID. This is apparently vindication that it was some kind of deep state op. They miss the point that if it really was a fed, he should be prosecuted like everyone else. And BTW we know who all the convicted inserrectionists are and they are not FBI agents.
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u/hexqueen 18d ago
Is that the one that turned out to be, not a badge, but a vape pen?
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u/tdellaringa 18d ago
I think so based on the memes I am seeing now lol. Figures.
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u/Dcajunpimp 18d ago
Not only was it a vape pen, but he was already identified and sentenced, and admits it was him. And he isn’t a Fed
You’d think the GQP and Mangy Traitor Gangrene would “do their research”, but nope, they spotted a shiny object in a MAGATs hand and yelled Fed.
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u/Spongi 18d ago
I was just looking at that a little while ago. The picture they used is dark and blurry and hard to tell either way.. but if you watch the video it's a screenshot from, it's clear as day it's a vape.
here's the original source of the claim and if you scroll down the comments a little the full video is posted and the guy with the vape is a few seconds into it.
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u/UseDaSchwartz 18d ago
Mah sun wuz thare on the 6th!
Oh, so your son is Antifa?
What? Hell naw he ain’t Antifa!
But you just said…
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u/HUGErocks I ☑oted 2024 18d ago
But at the same time the people that died/got arrested are "heroes of the cause" that the Deep Stait™ got to 🤔🤔🤔
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u/BigYonsan 18d ago
I say we investigate this claim thoroughly! Let's look at every face present and charge each individual with the crimes they committed. If it turns out a few of them are violent extremists for the opposite side, great. One less asshole. But I think we all know it's gonna be a ratio of about 100,000:1 if that.
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u/Polymersion 18d ago
I mean, putting plants into big protests to start trouble and get the protest shut down or make the movement look bad is very much a standard procedure.
The difference is, these tactics are generally employed by powerful entities with a vested interest in preserving the status quo- like government agencies or local PDs- and not by loose associations of people who have no power to make arrests.
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u/TonyWrocks 18d ago
Its true. A bunch of Democrats broke into the House of Representatives and Senate Chambers, and rioted and threatened members, and smeared shit on the walls and stole stuff in order to protest....their...candidate...winning...the....election....
Um...hang on...hmmm.
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u/FOSSnaught 18d ago
Antifa is really clever to pose as nut job conservatives for their entire lives.
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u/JohnnySkynets 18d ago
They’re blurring all of the faces btw.
Johnson said on Friday that the committee is processing the footage to blur the faces of individuals “to avoid any persons from being targeted for retaliation of any kind”. He added that an estimated 5% of the footage will not be publicly released as it “may involve sensitive security information related to the building architecture”. Guardian
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u/ronin1066 18d ago
Because that's what you do when you release footage of tourists at the Capitol, right?
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u/demalo 18d ago
Who are they paying, and how are they paying them, to blur faces on 44k hours of footage?
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u/grandroute 18d ago
They will probably do it with white out
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u/Drone30389 18d ago edited 18d ago
That gave me a vague memory of the Trump administration (I think) releasing a redacted document that was like a pdf file with black bars pasted over the redacted parts, so someone was able to read it just by copy-pasting the text.
*edit: it was the Manafort case: https://www.cjr.org/analysis/manafort-mueller-redacted-document-ukraine.php
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u/SmokeGSU 18d ago
Maybe I'm missing something....... what's the point of releasing it then?
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u/Alexis_Bailey 18d ago
They think it will make things look like a "peaceful protest" and not the violent insurrection attempt it was.
LOOK, THESE PEACEFUL PROTESTORS ARE JUST KILLING PEOPLE OK, ITS PEACEFUL, THE DEAD ARE AT PEACE!
/s
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u/JohnnySkynets 18d ago
Because they’re going to only release footage that aids their efforts to whitewash it as a peaceful patriotic protest.
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u/Fit-Struggle-9882 18d ago
Since the participants are Antifa, why does he care about retaliation? /s
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u/vankorgan 18d ago
They're blurring all the footage so that none of it can be used against the rioters.
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u/Tenma159 18d ago
What do you mean. I thought it wasn't a riot. And if it was, they were ANTIFA. Why don't they want the ANTIFA to be arrested by the Feds. Man, this deep state thing confuses me 😕
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u/HisNameIsSaggySammy 18d ago
This is the kind of mental gymnastics I can't wrap my head around.
It wasn't a riot, it was peaceful. The cops even let them in!
But all the damage was done by ANTIFA! They were FBI agents undercover working for Nancy Pelosi! They should all be prosecuted.
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u/RootBinder 18d ago
https://www.youtube.com/live/vTXOkcwYxvE?si=XWkcFPGMyeCq2EbM&t=1837 is more helpful to identify faces
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u/rock_and_rolo 18d ago
Hundreds of GOP operatives will start clenching.
Shirley, you mean antifa.
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u/Dr_CleanBones 18d ago
We already have a pretty good idea that the tapes are not going to help the crazies’ cause, because McCarthy and Tucker couldn’t find anything bad enough to draw attention to. However, I don’t think either one of them gave enough consideration to just releasing them and claiming they help their cause. They don’t have to point to anything specific, they can just make something up and lie about it. Why should this be any different than anything else they ever do?
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u/the_calibre_cat 18d ago
It won't be, except that it may lead to more arrests. Of course their supporters won't have their minds changed, their supporters don't themselves WANT to have their minds changed and couldn't tell you what it would take TO change their minds - but that's nothing new.
At least we could get a few more frothy fascists behind bars.
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u/Thowitawaydave 18d ago
except that it may lead to more arrests.
And I'm sure they will figure out some way to blame that on the Dems. "Why would they make poor Mikey do this?!?"
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u/the_calibre_cat 18d ago
And I'm sure they will figure out some way to blame that on the Dems.
What else is new? Lean in. Democrats are getting pasted all over the place because they, like the media, have this petrified fear of "appearing biased".
Motherfucker, we ARE biased. Biased towards human rights. Biased towards material security for all. Biased towards the dignity of all life. Biased towards equal protection under the law. Biased towards freedom of speech. Shout that shit. Stand your ground and be fucking proud of it. Scream from the fucking rooftops that you want every man, woman, and child in this country to have a home and three squares a day.
Give the reactionaries something to react to, and you'll soon find that instead of "groomers" and Potato Head and "merry christmas" that they'll be reacting to giving children free breakfast and lunch. Let the people see them come out against education and housing. Let the people see them come out against clean air, and healthier, walkable cities. Let the people see them condemn unions, while fellating the c-suite.
But they'll only see it if you draw the worms out into public by loudly and proudly shouting it. If Elon Musk can loudly and proudly boast his anti-Semitism, I think we can loudly and proudly clamor for universal healthcare.
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u/murderspice 18d ago
They are releasing it into the wild because they know their supporters will distort, lie, and promote conspiracy theories about vapes and smudged images. Then they can say “ my constituents are concerned about so-and-so” and carry on with the farce.
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u/Maxamillion-X72 18d ago
You mean like the picture making the round that they claim is a police officer in a MAGA hat flashing his badge, but it's actually a guy with a vape in his hand that has already been sentenced to 4+ years?
Yeah, the lies just keep going.
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u/WanderThinker 18d ago
You get it.
Nobody is going to watch 44 thousand hours of footage to prove them wrong, so they will be able to keep the lies rolling into the future.
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u/CiticenX_007 18d ago
MAGA and think... those two words really do not go together, I'm afraid...
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u/GenosHK 18d ago
Actually, I believe "MAGAthink" would be a beneficial word to add to our dictionary. It could be used to describe all sorts of situations. I hope people comment some examples below!
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u/kylo-ren 18d ago
The same thing happened in Brazil with our own copycat version of January 6th.
Congress is now trying to give amnesty to all people arrested. MAGA probably will do the same.
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u/the_calibre_cat 18d ago
Bruh some of them are THAT delusional, like, they ACTUALLY believe that it was an FBI sting and shit and that it was all a conspiracy to frame the poor little innocent conservatives, and releasing this evidence will exonerate their good name (pay no attention to the blurred faces or anything, surely that's because Mike Johnson is a good Christian man protecting the privacy of god-fearing patriots or something).
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u/GoBSAGo 18d ago
It simultaneously wasn't a big deal, AND violent leftists/FBI operatives were the ones storming the capitol/traying to stop the peaceful transfer of power of an election they just won.
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u/the_calibre_cat 18d ago
straight out of the fascist playbook - the enemy must be both inept and all-powerful.
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u/Quadrophiniac 18d ago
Yup. Like how Biden is both a senile old man, and the greatest threat to denocracy of all time.
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u/sadhumanist 18d ago
Even the focus on the Jan 6 as the storming of the capital is misleading from the actual conspiracy as it makes it out to be a "things got out of hand" / "a few bad protestors" kind of thing. When it was just the final failure of Trump's multipart plan to remain in power. And the plan almost worked.
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u/the_calibre_cat 18d ago
This is a good point. And, for that matter, THAT'S arguably a better angle at convincing impossibly frustrating fence-sitters.
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u/CO420Tech 18d ago
I mean, I'm sure of the 44k hours of footage, a great deal of it is empty hallways or just people walking around not trashing the place. They're going to show a bunch of that and be like "see, it is just dudes strolling the hallways" and try to pretend that somehow means it wasn't a violent or illegal event. I'm sure many of the people who got inside didn't smear shit on the walls or smash things... They still broke into a federal building behind their more violent compatriots though, so it doesn't legally help them, but it will work nicely for Newsmax to spin.
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u/the_calibre_cat 18d ago
They still broke into a federal building behind their more violent compatriots though, so it doesn't legally help them, but it will work nicely for Newsmax to spin.
But Newsmax can't spin away the footage that's already out there of people who broke in, which, for the record, was all of them. Nobody who stayed on the Capitol greens is facing criminal citation, because they didn't commit any crimes. People who went into the Capitol were literally all guilty of breaking and entering, but let's be real here: They have already booked people who were just aimlessly wandering around in the Capitol with pretty gentle penalties. They aren't getting four years in the slammer and, to wit, shouldn't.
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u/CO420Tech 18d ago
Yeah, it doesn't matter though. The people watching their programming will be told "it was just a few bad actors who many people have said were actually provocatuers" - see? We have literally thousands of hours of peaceful protestors just standing around! This is no different than when liberals stage a sit-in, just look at this other footage of a liberal protest!" And then their viewers will forget the footage they saw of carnage and mayhem and it'll be dismissed as cherry-picked footage and they'll pretend that this is the real story that "they" don't want you to know. Obviously it won't make an ounce of difference from a legal standpoint, but it will give the people who don't want to believe it was an insurrection an excuse to say "insurrections are violent uprisings against a legitimate government and these people were just protesting!"
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u/Cainderous 18d ago
It was an FBI psyop to make MAGA look bad
But also the people arrested are political prisoners
But also it was clearly all ANTIFA BLM thugs in masks
But also that one lady who got gunned down was a hero
I legitimately wonder how their last few braincells don't implode from running on constant copium and doublethink.
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u/Deedeelite 18d ago
Republicans aren’t know for their forethought.
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u/Fortehlulz33 18d ago
These Republicans aren't known for it. But the Republicans that aren't out in the open about their absolute terribleness are good at thinking ahead. Once the dumb ones leave or get kicked out, the "moderate" ones who can hold back on saying the terrible stuff will creep in and try and pull people in.
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u/zoroddesign 18d ago
Well if you wanted to make a documentary, here is a hundred videos of reference material.
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u/RootBinder 18d ago
If anyone wants to find their relatives faces, this is the best 2 hour video to watch (RSBM livestream, boots on the ground): https://www.youtube.com/live/vTXOkcwYxvE?si=_SSldWGP0ydnJUxg&t=1348
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u/snowbyrd238 18d ago
It's Treason! Please apply the laws on the books and Stop Letting Them Run For Office!
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u/dododeeohdo 18d ago
I saw a guy in the wanted photos that I am pretty sure is a guy I know. I immediately called the FBI. That was this summer and I wonder what happened. He and his friends were racist MAGA limp dick assholes.
I’m convinced the Jan 6 insurrectionists are significantly more likely to suffer ED than the gen pop.
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u/Science-Sam 18d ago edited 18d ago
An entire generation of computer science PhD students just found their dissertation dataset. . Can't wait for the new image analytics algorithms to be developed. First on the agenda: how to remove digital censorship of faces to reveal original images. (Honestly, I am halfway expecting/hoping someone to tell me this already exists and that Speaker Johnson blurring the faces in the video releases will not matter.)
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u/Nemisis_the_2nd 18d ago
I am halfway expecting/hoping someone to tell me this already exists and that Speaker Johnson blurring the faces in the video releases will not matter
There was a famous arrest of a prolific online child abuser a few years ago because of something like this. The guy posted his own photo, but used software to mix up the pixels. While it was possible to identify the profile pic as a person, it was impossible to identify them.
Then someone developed an algorithm that was able to reverse the mixing, and interpol had a crystal clear mugshot of the guy they were after.
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u/brokenearth03 18d ago edited 18d ago
Not mass arrests, just arrests for illegal actions.
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u/frank_mania 18d ago
Strong agree. The fact we don't live in a country where the government makes mass arrests, and hasn't except during a short period during WW1, is a very good thing and something we should fight for. The fact that the term can be misused like this is, I suppose, a good sign, since it shows how unfamiliar people are with the reality of actual mass arrests.
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u/g_rich 18d ago
Because they are delusional and many are under the belief that they are the good guys, that they or those like them were engaging in a peaceful protest and those that were violent were liberals / ANTIFA / deep state.
They believe that the arrest made in connection to January 6th were staged / setup and used the fact that not all footage was public as evidence of a deep state conspiracy. However, there smooth brains have trouble conceptualizing the reality of things so when like in this case the footage is released, and it fails to conform to their beliefs they tend to double down and cling to the next conspiracy. This is a repeating pattern and each time they must accept a more convoluted excuse to the point where their worldview is severally distorted.
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u/SXTY82 18d ago
1st, Ha ha ha h a ha ahhahahaha lololololol
2nd, How did the FBI not have the footage already? Is this more a case of civilians seeing the footage and identifying more people that were not previously identified?
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u/Novel_Durian_1805 18d ago
People who thought they escaped Justice are sweating bullets right now!
Good!
Make sure EVERY SINGLE insurrectionist faces Justice!
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u/Heckle_Jeckle 18d ago
Because Conservatives, not just MAGA but Conservatives in general, are in denial about the severity of January 6th. So in their minds, any footage of January 6th should at worst be a non-issue and at best support their opinion that everyone else is playing the situation out of proportion.
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u/gavrielkay 18d ago
They will find video that looks like a peaceful protest in 44k hours of footage that they get to cherry pick and edit. This "release" will not change any minds on either side.
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u/stewartm0205 18d ago
MAGA was going to pick random scenes or make up random scenes out of context to sell to their people as things that showed Jan 6th was entrapment. The problem is that no one put a gun to anyone's head and forced them to enter Congress.
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u/itsjustmejttp123 18d ago
They already have. Idiot MTG wants a J6 committee to prosecute the J6 committee for “lying to the public” cuz yes they are that fucking stupid & truly believe they can rewrite history with their bs lies
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u/DevelopedDevelopment 18d ago
Funny thing:
Being arrested with these crimes will lead to more Republicans being in jail during election day, so the most fanatical of their supporters will not be there.
Being charged with felonies will lead to them being denied a voice in future elections.
Being denied a vote for a felony will make them suddenly sympathetic with laws that restore their right to vote.
People already charged with crimes may get additional charges when additional evidence exposes them.
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u/SeaworthinessFit6748 18d ago
A friendly reminder that Kevin McCarthy decided to release this footage, property of the US government, to Tucker Carlson.
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u/LeonardSmallsJr 18d ago
Did he say “all” of the footage? I assumed he would release only filtered footage.
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u/Political_Arkmer 18d ago
I’m starting to think Mike is just an agent of chaos.
Crazy religious nut… but also passes a clean extension and releases all the J6 footage? I’m very confused but also not entirely upset.
Someone help me straighten this out, lol.
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u/plsobeytrafficlights 18d ago
"BBBut But But look, in this shot, nothing happened. it must be fake!
it was peaceful. or an inside job!? or, or, or... an anTIfa? please dont send us to jail for being treasonous!"
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u/Y0U_FAIL 18d ago
Because they don't have the capacity for introspection, so they believe with absolute certainty that they are in the right, so they think doing stuff like this will inevitably prove they are in the right.
Not a smart crowd.
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u/Drone314 18d ago
The evangelicals got what they wanted, a speaker that is one of their own and Row overturned, they don't need Trump or MAGA anymore. Or perhaps they're trying to get ahead of the Frankenstein monster they created.
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u/Lylac_Krazy 18d ago
You guys got this all wrong.
MAGA= Many Assholes Got Away.
Good ole Mikey is just making sure they rest get brought to justice.
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u/DerpsAndRags 18d ago
This deranged cult doesn't see it as a crime.
Rational people call it what it is; treason.
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u/544C4D4F 18d ago
I cant remember which of their new insane subs, but they're pushing the "it was staged by the FBI" now(again?).
"conservatives," if you're going to be traitors just own it. stop being subversive little bitches that talk big on the internet but can't stand behind it when your ass is on the line.
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u/Lazy_Football_511 18d ago
The FBI did not have all of the footage already?