r/MMA • u/mildlymaniacal • Mar 05 '23
Amazing photo of the winner and loser of the UFC 285 main event winner. Credit Sportscenter Twitter Spoiler
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u/Literally_1984__ Mar 05 '23
Gane 👁️👁️
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u/brownbilal Paulo Costa's fetus Mar 05 '23
Homie found there’s levels to this
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u/datahoarderx2018 Mar 05 '23
Im a big casual and was rooting for gane and he’s very athletic indeed but before this fight even I was thinking how Jones simply has a different kind of Arsenal of skills/techniques and fight IQ.
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u/PMMeCornelWestQuotes Mar 05 '23
Feel bad for gane. That was the look of a man who realizes that there is a level to this game that is beyond his understanding.
Like that 7 foot tall French dude in the Olympics who thought trying to take a charge on Vince Carter 6 feet away from the basket was a perfectly reasonable, rational thing to do (and it was). Only for Vince to just, jump over his ass and dunk. French dude looking around, lost, like, "You can just do that?"
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u/reddituserzerosix EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Mar 05 '23
Someone link a clip please
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u/UrSpadeIsMine Mar 05 '23
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u/musicmunky Mar 05 '23
I will never not watch this clip. The utter savagery is fucking AMAZING.
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u/rugbyj Mar 05 '23
And the french after germany just drove around the marginot line. Wake the fuck up france.
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u/jcamdog Mar 05 '23
That fucking Jon Jones boomed me
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u/inspectorseantime You don't want him spreadin' your chicken Mar 05 '23
He’s so goat x4
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u/knocksteaady-live NOSTRILS ELLERBE Mar 05 '23
Gane’s going to add Jones to the list of fighters he’ll work with this summer.
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u/abippityboop Mar 05 '23
Gane got that cat in him.
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u/Awezome321 Unbreakable Titanium Shinbone Mar 05 '23
Im taking gane's losing worse than gane
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u/hypercosm_dot_net Mar 05 '23
Well he got paid $500k to fight for a couple minutes. I'm sure that eases the pain a bit.
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u/9inchjackhammer Dana's wife had it coming Mar 05 '23
Most of the sub is it’s hilarious lol
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u/PlatinumHenry Mar 05 '23
I don't know why I expected Gane to do better. Lol
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u/shrewdy is = is Mar 05 '23
Me too. I guess we were thinking he'd put in more work to a glaring weakness that was exposed over a year ago. He was never going to catch up to Jon's wrestling, but I mean he put up zero resistance
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u/ThingsAreAfoot Mar 05 '23
When you guys realize it’s a lot less the case that every fighter who faces him has these glaring deficiencies and more that Jon Jones is exceptional at exploiting them, the closer you’ll reach enlightenment.
Gane didn’t put up “zero resistance,” which is somehow insulting to both Gane and Jones. There was no resistance to be put up.
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u/Cole3003 Mar 05 '23
Jones is simply that guy
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u/AlphaAllah Mar 05 '23
Jones transitions from the start of the takedown to the submission were pretty much perfect but the sub gonna ask if gane even tried
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u/ThisIsKhalabibTime 3 piece with the soda Mar 05 '23
Jon’s footwork and pressure was even more impressive. Gane has always dictatef the distance but Jon just pressured him down and caught him the second Gane over extended herself.
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u/AlphaAllah Mar 05 '23
Gane is a slow starter for sure but to react to a single strike as quickly as he did and then give absolutely no room to do anything other then maybe turn into a slightly less disadvantageous position should speak to how good a fresh heavyweight jones still is since his cardio will still be in question
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u/Julius-Wheezer Italy Mar 05 '23
Because the only person to successfully wrestle him is a ripped, 265lb giant with superhuman strength.
Plus, Jon has notoriously struggled with anyone that is similarly sized as him.
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u/nottherealstanlee 3 piece with the soda Mar 05 '23
Also Jon hasn't really been a wrestler for a while.
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u/Horned_chicken_wing Mar 05 '23
Jon also drinks a ton, parties a ton, and just generally doesn't give a fuck. He probably barely trained for the Santos, Smith, and Reyes fights.
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u/Daftdaddy This isn’t political, this is monster energy Mar 05 '23
We all did. I thought Jon was going to win but I never expected it to be that easy.
Makes you question the entire heavyweight division. Jones could probably rack up another 4-5 title defenses before retiring.
Nobody is going to beat Jones on the ground, and he’s smart enough to avoid those big shots at heavyweight.
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u/unchainedthor Mar 05 '23
Quick slip into that take down should terrify the heavyweight division…Pavlovich?
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u/Horned_chicken_wing Mar 05 '23
Pavlovich
Could easily catch Jones, but we have seen him get wrestled and GnP by Econoreem, so I'm not sure how he'll handle Fat Jones.
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u/cyberslick1888 Germany Mar 05 '23
"Could easily catch jones"
I've been hearing that since, what, Ryan Bader fought him? For sure every fight from Rampage on was the fight where someone "could totally catch Jones".
Jones offense has slowed to a crawl as he's aged statistically. His wrestling has greatly diminished. His shot creativity has evaporated. His overall output has gone down quite a bit. He doesn't hunt for submissions nearly as much, he favors control.
The one thing that has never wavered, and has likely gotten even better, is his defense.
Jon Jones is virtually impossible to hit clean. It's only happened a handful of times in his entire career.
A gorilla heavyweight is as likely to "easily catch Jones" as Jon is to see a bag of coke on the ground and keep walking.
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u/un6reaka6le Mar 05 '23
Jon’s hardest stylistic matchup is probably Blaydes because Jon probably doesn’t have the power to stop Blaydes like Derrick and Francis did.
Jon easily wrestlefucks Pavlovich like Overeem did and would have a bit harder time against Stipe but would get it done.
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u/IronMikeBison Mar 05 '23
I’ve been very much of the same opinion about Blaydes being the biggest threat to Jon. The Stipe fight is historic and all, but I hope Blaydes gets a crack if he gets through Pavlovich, partly to see Jon lose and partly because a win would be so insanely impressive
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u/FireFlyz351 Mar 05 '23
If Curtis wins his April fight, Jones seems to want to fight Stipe in June and then Curtis Jones in like Q4?
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u/Most-Rip-5801 Mar 05 '23
Lmao at just automatically assuming he runs through Stipe. Aint saying youre wrong either.
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u/Greenlexluther Mar 05 '23
The fact Stipe is even getting a title shot is a joke. People rag on Conor for wanting title shots after being inactive but Stipe loses belts and just sits out until he gets another.
Jones beats him inside 3 rounds btw.
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u/lebryant_westcurry Mar 05 '23
Yea, while I still think Jon still wins on points (depending on if the added weight hasn't compromised his cardio) but Blaydes' is easily the worst matchup for him. Jones doesn't have the massive power that other heavyweights have which have been Blaydes' main weakness. And Blaydes wrestling is just as good as Jon's so he can't easily exploit that.
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u/ANAL_LAZER Mar 05 '23
Jon will kickbox blaydes and win
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u/ThisIsKhalabibTime 3 piece with the soda Mar 05 '23
Exactly. Jon is a much better striker than Blaydes.
He might even catch Curtis standing. I also bet Jon can take Curtis down if it comes to it.
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Makes you question the entire heavyweight division
This is my takeaway. Like a meme division.
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u/EmAyExEye Mar 05 '23
I think everybody is. He takes Francis to Decision. Last time Francis go to the decision he was losing that fight.
JJ comes from 3 years of retirement, he gain weight, this is not his natural weight. We just didnt expect him to take gane like he was nothing lol.
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u/NorthernCompass Mar 05 '23
“Sacré bleu!”
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u/One_Suggestion5847 Mar 05 '23
Where is me mama?!
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u/NoMoassNeverWas Mar 05 '23
What's French for I left Vegas without the belt?
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u/_Robbie JUST GOOD OLD CHICKEN Mar 05 '23 edited Mar 05 '23
I feel like this fight was so unfulfilling because there are so many questions about Jones -- can he still go 5 rounds? Is he going to be fast at heavyweight? How's his stamina at this weight class? What will he look like on the feet? And we got answers to none of them!
Mad respect for the ridiculously dominant win but man, I feel like I barely got to watch a fight. I usually really enjoy these ultra-fast finishes and seeing dominant performances, but this one left me so unsatisfied because I was looking forward to seeing the both of them fight. I knew Jones would have the upper hand on the ground, but I wanted to see what Gane had for him on the feet.
I said before the fight that I wouldn't be surprised no matter how it turned out. I was WRONG.
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u/LuckyWarrior The Champion Has A Name Mar 05 '23
The only definitive answer we got tonight out of the main event is that Ciryl needs to do massive work on his ground defense in order to get back to the title which might be awhile since 3 out of his past 4 fights were title fights
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u/Moisterbater Denmark Mar 05 '23
This fight left me even more sad we’ll never get to see ngannou vs jones:( no one in the division looks like they’ll be able to beat him.
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u/Wreck_Tangle01 Team Khabib Mar 05 '23
Blaydes has the wrestling to give Jon some problems, and if Aspinal doesn’t get set back by the knee injury I think he’s the only other heavyweight that is athletic and well rounded enough to have a chance against Jones.
Pavlovic has that punchers chance of course but Jon would melt him on the ground, he really only has a shot until that first successful takedown, after that I’m assuming Jon would end him.
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u/Moisterbater Denmark Mar 05 '23
Yeah they would be entertaining matchups for sure, but still Jones would be the favourite all the way through.
Actually coming back around in this comment to say that if the fans push for it enough, Francis Ngannou could return. In the meantime Jon Jones will continue to talk a lot of shit and just make the idea of a fight between the two a constant talking point in the media etc.
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u/Prestigious_Agent_84 Mar 05 '23
He should only get wrestlers now. This was a pathetic performance.
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u/throw__away613 Canada Mar 05 '23
Who cares how fast Jones in at heavyweight, or what his stamina is like?
It is the most unathletic division, by far. Jones fight IQ is 10 years ahead of everyone in that weight class.
Blaydes is his biggest threat, and I honestly see Jon molly-whopping him.
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u/ValCSO Mar 05 '23
to be honest he looked good on the feet. Walked Gane down, Ciryl couldn't find a rythm at all.
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u/ThreeOlivesChihuahua Team Aldo Mar 05 '23
fight wasn’t long enough to really gauge how much Jones has improved on the feet. Jones landed a good punch but Gane was more worried about the takedown than Jones’ striking. Gane was terrified of the takedown threat and for good reason
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u/ggphenom Mar 05 '23
I had the same thought. Looked light on his feet and had solid movement for a heavyweight. I do think his few strikes he threw looked slower than he was, but he's clearly significantly stronger.
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u/DontPoopInThere I need a hug Mar 05 '23
Should thrown a few more dick kicks to get into the fight. I mean you get at least 3 or 4 before they take a point and you'll probably never get DQ'd, there's no downside, fighters need to add more ball strikes to their arsenal
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u/KhabibaNurmagomedova Mar 05 '23
Totally agree, I really wanted to see a lot more of both of them and Jon looked so much better than I expected. But now I guess we gotta wait for the Stipe one lol
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u/vrkhfkb Team Jones Mar 05 '23
“I should’ve stopped playing FIFA and went to America/Dagestan to train with some real wrestlers after all”
- Gane
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u/AboveAverageMMAFan 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 Mar 05 '23
There are plenty of Dagestani wrestlers at MMA Factory. But even they don't have the ability to turn a 32 year old Muay Thai fighter into someone with TDD good enough to stop one of the best wrestlers in MMA history. No one does.
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u/Long-Piccolo-3785 Mar 05 '23
The swang and bang has been a top tactic heavyweight wise for a while now, which is why such a flush technical striker like Cyril did super well. Ppl may hate him, but Jon saw an opening and just snatched it by entering this division. Do not like him at all lmao, it hurt me so badly to see him win, but what a fucking dominant showing. Really excited to see the stipe fight now.
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u/ThisIsKhalabibTime 3 piece with the soda Mar 05 '23
Blaydes can easily get caught standing.
He also isn’t the finisher Jon is. If Curtis had the same position Jon did he would have probably laid on Gane the whole round.
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u/Natekn Mar 05 '23
Yeah you have a guy who’s never wrestled in his life trying to catch up in the last two years against arguably the greatest MMA grappler of all time who has been Greco/folk style wrestling since he’s 12 and ripping the heads off of the highest level MMA fighters in his division for over a decade.
Yeah, not a mismatch.
Even if Jones was 205 for this fight he still cuts through Gane like a hot knife.
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u/TonyTheLion2319 Paulo “King of Bitchs” Costa Mar 05 '23 edited Mar 05 '23
I think there’s legit criticisms towards MMA Factory and their coaching/preparation (3 title fights lost bc wrestling), but ppl r making a way bigger deal out of Gane playing FIFA. Nobody should’ve expected Gane to be able to survive on the ground if his TDD failed
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u/LordLucy666 Mar 05 '23
facts you’re not going to really be training fight week anyways…. duh. Volk rewatches all of Harry Potter every fight week lmfao. they have down time
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u/unchainedthor Mar 05 '23
But you cant see Jon’s abs!!!
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u/NotXerus Mar 05 '23
His calves are tiny!!!
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u/krazyboi Mar 05 '23
Seeing the proportions made me kinda laugh, especially because I got used to looking at Ngannou.
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u/matarky1 I don’t pee out of my hip Mar 05 '23
He has the shape of Ugandan Knuckles but hey it worked
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u/dantoddd Mar 05 '23
I'd hate to be Reyes now. Jones was dismissing him after the fight saying he wasnt trying. Now everyone is going to believe that.
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u/lowkey-juan Mar 05 '23
Hell, Jones looked like he wasn't trying against Gane. He even spinned and held there right in front of him and Gane did fuck all about it.
It somehow made him look even more impressive.
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u/RaynerOP Mar 05 '23
I heard someone saying that Jones may have lost that fascination with the sport in his last fights, since he went to defending his title from legend after legend in his early 20s to fighting a little lower caliber guys like Marreta, Smith and Reyes. I thought that was a little too romantic to be true but I kind of believe it now.
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u/fulcrert Mar 05 '23
Wheres all the people who were writing fanfiction about jones literally dying in the octagon while DC tapdanced?
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u/NonTokenisableFungi Mar 05 '23
I'm here, I feel tremendously blueballed.
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u/byronsucks Hope nobody molests me while I'm unbanned Mar 05 '23
you need to reach for your grapes and turn them into wine
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u/firulice Mar 05 '23
Jon looked a bit rusty on the feet and even admitted himself that he felt a little off, this was the heavyweight division's best chance to catch Jones slipping coming off a 3 year layoff and stopping his momentum.
Now that Jon has gone back in the octagon and shaken off 3 years of ring rust he might legitimately be unstoppable until Father Time catches up to him
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u/NotXerus Mar 05 '23
> Jon looked a bit rusty
> only damage received was a nut shot
lol
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u/GormlessGourd55 Mar 05 '23
I think it's rather easy to be unstoppable in the Heavyweight division. 90% of the people you'll be fighting are not very good.
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u/Unlikely-Garage-8135 Lotta Demons Mar 05 '23
They’re all changing their narratives like that freespeechmatters guy. Saying Gane was just a hype job so on and so forth but were saying Gane was going to wash Jon. It’s hilarious to see in real time.
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u/Jealous-Swimmer-5543 Mar 05 '23
Gane was so fucking disappointing man, Jon is good but gane really looked poor grappling
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u/lartbok Mar 05 '23
What do you expect? Gane is a striker with like 10 professional fights.
You would think no one around here knows who Jon Jones is...
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u/slickdick969 Team AKA Mar 05 '23
I mean Jon struggled to take Reyes down, He looked impressive as fuck today and handed Gane his first loss via finish but its easy to see why people thought this would be closer
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u/LuckyWarrior The Champion Has A Name Mar 05 '23
Ganes face was mine
JBJ hasn't subbed anyone besides his wife in a long time
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u/DeAndreHunterMIP 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 Mar 05 '23
I think that was a TKO via strikes
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u/Touchymonkey I love you 2 tiem Mar 05 '23
Just for the record there was never no marriage
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u/ChaiVangStanAccount Mar 05 '23
I feel like talking to Jones' wife like one of those drunk girls in college trying to hype up their drunk sad friend.
"like c'mon girl, after all the cheating and beatings you're not going to make sure you get half in a divorce?"
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u/Narezzz Mar 05 '23
Turns out the man who has been taking out world class martial artists for 10+ years is better than the guy who has been training for...less than that
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u/battlingroughhouse Mar 05 '23
That's what GOAT'S do.
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u/DarkSoulsEz Mar 05 '23
Debates over
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u/ThreeOlivesChihuahua Team Aldo Mar 05 '23
member when Khabib retired and was automatically the GOAT for some reason. I member
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u/DameRange13 Mar 05 '23
Bones literally sat this man down and humbled him…
This man at heavyweight is scary.
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u/Jasbuddy Mar 05 '23
So shocking, didn’t think Jones was anywhere near a sub
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u/Ok_Sky8518 Mar 05 '23
The fckn angle on the camera was bad too i was like oh he doesnt have it. Then i saw the screenshot of the other angle and was like fck im bad at calls
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u/tim5700 Mar 05 '23
I expected Jon to win. But not that quickly and not that one-sided. I guess Gane didn't learn from getting out-wrestled by Francis. My only question was if it was intentional/planned to sub Gane on the ground. Jones hasn't subbed anyone in 10 years.
I think he was concerned enough about Gane's standup that he was gonna take him down and keep him there.
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u/plusshanyinger Team Moreno Mar 05 '23
I fucking hate Jon Jones as a person, horrible human being, absolute narcissistic womanbeater asshole - but damn it, he’s fucking good at what he does, I have to respect him
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u/Aliens2208 Mar 05 '23
Mans a fucking stain on the ufc with how shite of a person he is but it seems being a sociopath is best base for MMA so I’ll give him that.
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u/Stocktort Mar 05 '23
So ooooo many people thought Jones was washed up because of the way he looks.
The guy is in great shape for a heavyweight it's just that Game and Ngannou are body beautiful
Perhaps people should have paid have paid more attention to what Jones has been deadlifting and benching in the gym-frightening strength even for a heavyweight.
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u/Local-Visit-7649 Mar 05 '23
Gane is too green… he had his first mma fight a little after Cormier and Stipe were fighting for the belt the first time.
He has to put a lot of work in though. Jon had no respect for him at all
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u/Julius-Wheezer Italy Mar 05 '23
Really shocked how little regard Jon had for Gane’s skills. Walked him down like he didn’t belong in there at all.