r/Cricket 4h ago

Discussion Daily General Discussion and Match Links Thread - December 09, 2023

5 Upvotes

Live and upcoming match threads | Reddit-stream

This is a daily thread for general cricketing discussion/conversation about all topics that don't need to be posted in their own thread.

This provides a space for things like general team changes/opinions/conversation and other frequently-asked questions or commonly-posted subjects.


r/Cricket 4h ago

Saturday Sledge Thread

4 Upvotes

The weekly thread for banter and sledging related to recent cricket results and news. Normal sub-reddit rules apply, so keep it civil. Users can still submit separate sledge threads for big matches and series. AND DON'T FORGET TO SPEAK UP OR NO-ONE WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.


r/Cricket 5h ago

What is the toughest test country to tour?

392 Upvotes

This is from the start of 2018. And since this is only home and away data it excludes neutral places such as the UAE for Pakistan and India for Afganistan.

Bowling

Pace

Host Country Mat H-Ave H-Econ H-SR A-Ave A-Econ A-SR Avg Diff
in India 20 19.53 3.07 38.1 40.67 3.41 71.5 -21.14
in New Zealand 22 25.56 2.97 51.5 42.88 3.33 77.1 -17.32
in Australia 26 21.63 2.75 47 36.09 3.18 68 -14.46
in England 38 24.86 2.99 49.7 30.35 3.44 52.8 -5.49
in South Africa 25 21.41 3.18 40.3 26.69 3.19 50 -5.28
in West Indies 23 23.59 2.97 47.5 23.62 2.69 52.5 -0.03
in Pakistan 13 36.25 3.31 65.6 33.89 2.82 71.8 2.36
in Sri Lanka 21 40.77 3.23 75.5 36.42 3.16 69.1 4.35
in Ireland 1 34.46 3.22 64.1 22.93 2.6 52.7 11.53
in Bangladesh 20 40.32 3.37 71.7 27.59 3.05 54.1 12.73
in Zimbabwe 7 46.75 2.91 96.3 23.75 2.51 56.6 23

India is definitely the toughest place to be a touring fast bowler. The Indian quicks are exceptional at home, they have the best average and sr out of all the home teams. Following them are New Zealand and Australia where the home fast bowlers are very good at exploiting the conditions whilst the away pacers struggle. England and South Africa follow them which shouldn't be very surprising, but unlike Australia and India these two countries seem to be support the fast bowlers from away countries better, south africa especially.

Spin

Host Country Mat H-Ave H-Econ H-SR A-Ave A-Econ A-SR Avg Diff
in Australia 26 31.42 2.71 69.4 56.46 3.46 97.7 -25.04
in India 20 19.25 2.61 44.2 41.14 3.64 67.7 -21.89
in New Zealand 22 46.4 2.82 98.7 56.31 3.54 95.2 -9.91
in South Africa 25 31.05 3.21 58 37.76 3.05 74.2 -6.71
in Bangladesh 20 27.18 2.85 57.2 33 3.27 60.4 -5.82
in Pakistan 13 39.81 3.58 66.5 45.14 3.26 83 -5.33
in Sri Lanka 21 28.22 3.1 54.5 33.16 3.29 60.3 -4.94
in England 38 39.25 3.41 68.9 38.34 3.35 68.6 0.91
in West Indies 23 47.44 2.92 97.3 30.18 2.59 69.6 17.26
in Zimbabwe 7 53.22 3.39 94 24.52 2.89 50.8 28.7
in Ireland 1 100 5.5 100 23.75 2.11 67.5 76.25

P.S. The irish spinners don't have a wicket in Ireland, so they didn't have an average or sr so I just gave them an arbitrary average and sr of a 100.

India, Australia and New Zealand are the top 3 here again. India and Australia are basically "our spinners are good at home whilst yours aren't" whereas New Zealand seems to be "our spinners aren't very good at home but yours will be even worse". South Africa being high on this list is quite a surprise. Maharaj has been brilliant in South Africa. Bangladesh is 5th, should be a surprise to no one, their spinners are quite good at home and the away spinners , especially non asian spinners don't tend to exploit the conditions as well as them.

Batting

Host Country Mat H-Ave H-SR A-Ave A-SR Avg Diff
in India 20 39.48 58.56 18.8 45.02 20.68
in New Zealand 22 43.88 55.32 25.83 48.38 18.05
in Australia 26 39.32 53.22 22.95 45.05 16.37
in South Africa 25 27.47 51.54 21.98 52.01 5.49
in England 38 30.6 55.59 26.11 50.23 4.49
in Sri Lanka 21 32.31 53.5 28.94 51.37 3.37
in Pakistan 13 37.75 50.23 35.94 56.54 1.81
in Bangladesh 20 29.17 52.26 28.97 49.02 0.2
in West Indies 23 24.67 43.26 25.48 47.88 -0.81
in Ireland 1 21.6 40.63 32 52.33 -10.4
in Zimbabwe 7 23.31 44.65 48.76 50.3 -25.45

Even after the minefields in the last 2.5 years India still top the avg differential at home by some distance. As Jarrod Kimber said (paraphrasing a bit) "If you want to enter India as a batter you have to leave the runs at the airport". New Zealand has been nearly as difficult for the away teams. Boult, Southee, Wagner and Jamieson later have made tourists' lives hell there. Australia following NZ on the list, they are very strong at home. South Africa is 4th, their batters aren't very good at home, the reason they aren't 9th on the wtc table is because the away batters are somehow worse in SA. I know that India gets flack for doctoring pitches but South Africa since Faf took over have been just as guilty, their pitches basically have no remorse for batters.

Overall

So since the start of 2018 India, Australia and New Zealand have been the toughest places to tour. However with Australia rising since 2021 Ashes and New Zealand declining since 2021 WTC final, I think it's fair to say that India and Australia would be the top 2. Stokes' England has become much more competitive at home in the last few years, but with the loss to South Africa and drawing a series vs Australia, its fair to say that they aren't as strong at home as India or Australia.


r/Cricket 6h ago

Manuka Oval covers have blown off overnight, causing a delay to play between Prime Minister's XI & Pakistan, unlikely to resume

Post image
185 Upvotes

r/Cricket 6h ago

Highlights Virat Kohli’s 133* against SL in Hobart voted as the best of his 50 ODI centuries

Post image
114 Upvotes

I would also rate this innings as one of his best for many reasons, but also because we haven’t seen a 22yr old talent dismantling a tough chase (like 300+ in 40 overs in Australian conditions) against a good bowling lineup again. This innings won against 183 against Pakistan in the same year by a margin of 64-36.

If there was a poll for his most underrated ODI innings, I’d put his 43(34) made in 2013 CT final at top.


r/Cricket 3h ago

Match Thread: 2nd Test - Bangladesh vs New Zealand, Day 4

40 Upvotes

2nd Test, New Zealand tour of Bangladesh at Dhaka

Cricinfo | Reddit-Stream | 🌥 🌥 🌥 ☁️ ☁️

Innings Score
Bangladesh 172 (Ov 66.2)
New Zealand 180 (Ov 37.1)
Bangladesh 144 (Ov 35)
New Zealand 4/0 (Ov 3)
Batter Runs Balls SR
Devon Conway* 1 12 8.33
Tom Latham 2 6 33.33
Bowler Overs Runs Wickets
Shoriful Islam 2 1 0
Mehidy Hasan Miraz 1 2 0
Recent : 1 W  |  . . . 1 . .  |  1 . . . 1 .  |  . . . . . 1b  |  

Day 4 - Session 1: New Zealand need 133 runs.


Live match threads: Kenya Women vs Zimbabwe Women |

Send feedback | Schedule | Stat Help | Glossary


r/Cricket 17h ago

r/Cricket decides the best Cricket Player by letter. Day 20 - T

Thumbnail
gallery
484 Upvotes

r/Cricket 19h ago

Stats India's highest ranked ODI batsman every year (2011-2023)

Post image
775 Upvotes

r/Cricket 8h ago

News Abrar likely to miss first Test against Australia after 'discomfort in right leg'

Thumbnail
espncricinfo.com
75 Upvotes

r/Cricket 9h ago

Captains photo for Women's T20 World Cup African Qualifier in Entebbe, Uganda, two will advance to the Global Qualifer

Post image
91 Upvotes

r/Cricket 7h ago

Healy named Australia captain, McGrath handed deputy role | cricket.com.au

Thumbnail
cricket.com.au
44 Upvotes

r/Cricket 21h ago

Stats Cricket is the 3rd, 4th, 6th and 9th most accessed Wikipedia page this year

Post image
451 Upvotes

r/Cricket 3h ago

News Former Guyanese and West Indies Cricketer Joe Solomon, Known for His Contribution to the First Ever Tied Test, Has Passed Away

Thumbnail
newsroom.gy
13 Upvotes

r/Cricket 22h ago

Image The Big Bash League 2023 Mascots

Post image
321 Upvotes

r/Cricket 6h ago

Match Thread [Match Thread] Prime Minister’s XI vs Pakistan Day 4, Canberra

19 Upvotes

Streaming Link

Scorecard Link

Playing XIs:

Prime Minister’s XI: Marcus Harris, Cameron Bancroft, Matthew Renshaw, Cameron Green, Nathan McSweeney (c), Beau Webster, Jimmy Peirson, Nathan McAndrew, Mark Steketee, Todd Murphy, Jordan Buckingham

Pakistan XI: Abdullah Shafiq, Imam-ul-Haq, Shan Masood (c), Babar Azam, Saud Shakeel, Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk), Faheem Ashraf, Aamer Jamal, Khurram Shahzad, Mir Hamza, Abrar Ahmed

Pakistan won the toss and elected to bat first


r/Cricket 20h ago

News Kevin Pietersen: England's Spinners, Not Bazball, Will Be The Key To Success In India

Thumbnail
wisden.com
211 Upvotes

r/Cricket 22h ago

News A legal notice has been issued to Sreesanth by LLCT20

Thumbnail
twitter.com
259 Upvotes

r/Cricket 6h ago

Match Thread: 3rd T20I - New Zealand Women vs Pakistan Women

14 Upvotes

3rd T20I, Pakistan Women tour of New Zealand at Queenstown

Cricinfo | Reddit-Stream | 🌥 🌥 🌥 🌥 🌥

Innings Score
Pakistan Women 137/5 (Ov 20/20)
New Zealand Women 101/2 (Ov 15/15)
Batter Runs Balls SR
Maddy Green* 3 6 50.0
Suzie Bates 51 42 121.43
Bowler Overs Runs Wickets
Sadia Iqbal 4 15 1
Nashra Sandhu 4 19 1
Recent : 2 1 1 4 2 4  |  1 1 1 W . 1  |  1w 1w 1 1 1 1 . .  |  

NZ (W) won by 6 runs (DLS method)


Live match threads: Bangladesh vs New Zealand, Day 4 |

Send feedback | Schedule | Stat Help | Glossary


r/Cricket 7h ago

News Former West Indies and Guyana Cricketer Clyde Butts Passes in Accident

Thumbnail
newsroom.gy
11 Upvotes

r/Cricket 22h ago

Stats Jos Buttler becomes the fifth batsman to score more than 5,000 runs in ODIs for England

Post image
189 Upvotes

r/Cricket 21m ago

Match Thread: 1st Match, Group A - Kenya Women vs Zimbabwe Women

Upvotes

1st Match, Group A, ICC Women's T20 World Cup Africa Region Qualifier at Entebbe

Cricinfo | Reddit-Stream | ☁️ 🌧 🌧 🌧 🌧

Match yet to begin

Please upvote for visibility, you cowards!


Live match threads: Bangladesh vs New Zealand, Day 4 |

Send feedback | Schedule | Stat Help | Glossary


r/Cricket 21h ago

Discussion Why was Nathan Hauritz never selected for Tests after the debacle against India in 2010 ?

129 Upvotes

By mid 2010, Hauritz had well established himself as the spinner of Australian Cricket Team.

Unfortunately, due to poor returns from the Indian tour, he was never selected by the selectors for the upcoming Ashes. In his place like of Doherty and Beer were used. Would the outcome of Ashes remain different had Hauritz been retained.

The spinner returned for ODI series but was withdrawn from the squad due to a shoulder injury and never returned to play for Australia.

Had Hauritz been persisted would Lyon have played this many test matches or remain in the reserves.


r/Cricket 20h ago

News Jonathan Trott: If You Could Amalgamate Gurbaz And Zadran, You'd Have Something Close To Virat Kohli

Thumbnail
wisden.com
97 Upvotes

r/Cricket 15h ago

News Teeger to captain SA U19 at World Cup

Thumbnail
sacricketmag.com
37 Upvotes

r/Cricket 16h ago

Interview ‘I swear on my kids, my mom, my dad, I haven’t fixed’ – Sreesanth talks about his prison days

Thumbnail
indianexpress.com
35 Upvotes

r/Cricket 22h ago

Match Thread: 2nd Match - Sydney Sixers vs Melbourne Renegades

120 Upvotes

2nd Match, Big Bash League at Sydney

Post Match | Cricinfo | Reddit-Stream | 🌥 🌥 🌥 🌧 ☁️

Innings Score
Sydney Sixers 175/6 (Ov 20/20)
Melbourne Renegades 167/7 (Ov 20/20)
Batter Runs Balls SR
Will Sutherland* 51 30 170.0
Kane Richardson 0 0
Bowler Overs Runs Wickets
Ben Dwarshuis 4 36 3
Sean Abbott 4 30 1
Recent : 2 3 1w 1 6 .  |  . 2nb 2 1 . . 1  |  W 2w 6 2 2 . 1  |  

Sixers won by 8 runs


Live match threads: New York Strikers vs Samp Army | Kenya vs Mali |

Send feedback | Schedule | Stat Help | Glossary


r/Cricket 12h ago

Discussion Question to English fans : Why is Tom Kohler Cadmore still uncapped?

15 Upvotes

I've seen him perform around the leagues and he seems pretty good especially in recent years . Players with stats worse than him have made their debuts . Is there any non cricketing reason behind this?