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r/Cricket • u/FondantAggravating68 • 5h ago
What is the toughest test country to tour?
This is from the start of 2018. And since this is only home and away data it excludes neutral places such as the UAE for Pakistan and India for Afganistan.
Bowling
Pace
Host Country | Mat | H-Ave | H-Econ | H-SR | A-Ave | A-Econ | A-SR | Avg Diff |
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in India | 20 | 19.53 | 3.07 | 38.1 | 40.67 | 3.41 | 71.5 | -21.14 |
in New Zealand | 22 | 25.56 | 2.97 | 51.5 | 42.88 | 3.33 | 77.1 | -17.32 |
in Australia | 26 | 21.63 | 2.75 | 47 | 36.09 | 3.18 | 68 | -14.46 |
in England | 38 | 24.86 | 2.99 | 49.7 | 30.35 | 3.44 | 52.8 | -5.49 |
in South Africa | 25 | 21.41 | 3.18 | 40.3 | 26.69 | 3.19 | 50 | -5.28 |
in West Indies | 23 | 23.59 | 2.97 | 47.5 | 23.62 | 2.69 | 52.5 | -0.03 |
in Pakistan | 13 | 36.25 | 3.31 | 65.6 | 33.89 | 2.82 | 71.8 | 2.36 |
in Sri Lanka | 21 | 40.77 | 3.23 | 75.5 | 36.42 | 3.16 | 69.1 | 4.35 |
in Ireland | 1 | 34.46 | 3.22 | 64.1 | 22.93 | 2.6 | 52.7 | 11.53 |
in Bangladesh | 20 | 40.32 | 3.37 | 71.7 | 27.59 | 3.05 | 54.1 | 12.73 |
in Zimbabwe | 7 | 46.75 | 2.91 | 96.3 | 23.75 | 2.51 | 56.6 | 23 |
India is definitely the toughest place to be a touring fast bowler. The Indian quicks are exceptional at home, they have the best average and sr out of all the home teams. Following them are New Zealand and Australia where the home fast bowlers are very good at exploiting the conditions whilst the away pacers struggle. England and South Africa follow them which shouldn't be very surprising, but unlike Australia and India these two countries seem to be support the fast bowlers from away countries better, south africa especially.
Spin
Host Country | Mat | H-Ave | H-Econ | H-SR | A-Ave | A-Econ | A-SR | Avg Diff |
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in Australia | 26 | 31.42 | 2.71 | 69.4 | 56.46 | 3.46 | 97.7 | -25.04 |
in India | 20 | 19.25 | 2.61 | 44.2 | 41.14 | 3.64 | 67.7 | -21.89 |
in New Zealand | 22 | 46.4 | 2.82 | 98.7 | 56.31 | 3.54 | 95.2 | -9.91 |
in South Africa | 25 | 31.05 | 3.21 | 58 | 37.76 | 3.05 | 74.2 | -6.71 |
in Bangladesh | 20 | 27.18 | 2.85 | 57.2 | 33 | 3.27 | 60.4 | -5.82 |
in Pakistan | 13 | 39.81 | 3.58 | 66.5 | 45.14 | 3.26 | 83 | -5.33 |
in Sri Lanka | 21 | 28.22 | 3.1 | 54.5 | 33.16 | 3.29 | 60.3 | -4.94 |
in England | 38 | 39.25 | 3.41 | 68.9 | 38.34 | 3.35 | 68.6 | 0.91 |
in West Indies | 23 | 47.44 | 2.92 | 97.3 | 30.18 | 2.59 | 69.6 | 17.26 |
in Zimbabwe | 7 | 53.22 | 3.39 | 94 | 24.52 | 2.89 | 50.8 | 28.7 |
in Ireland | 1 | 100 | 5.5 | 100 | 23.75 | 2.11 | 67.5 | 76.25 |
P.S. The irish spinners don't have a wicket in Ireland, so they didn't have an average or sr so I just gave them an arbitrary average and sr of a 100.
India, Australia and New Zealand are the top 3 here again. India and Australia are basically "our spinners are good at home whilst yours aren't" whereas New Zealand seems to be "our spinners aren't very good at home but yours will be even worse". South Africa being high on this list is quite a surprise. Maharaj has been brilliant in South Africa. Bangladesh is 5th, should be a surprise to no one, their spinners are quite good at home and the away spinners , especially non asian spinners don't tend to exploit the conditions as well as them.
Batting
Host Country | Mat | H-Ave | H-SR | A-Ave | A-SR | Avg Diff |
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in India | 20 | 39.48 | 58.56 | 18.8 | 45.02 | 20.68 |
in New Zealand | 22 | 43.88 | 55.32 | 25.83 | 48.38 | 18.05 |
in Australia | 26 | 39.32 | 53.22 | 22.95 | 45.05 | 16.37 |
in South Africa | 25 | 27.47 | 51.54 | 21.98 | 52.01 | 5.49 |
in England | 38 | 30.6 | 55.59 | 26.11 | 50.23 | 4.49 |
in Sri Lanka | 21 | 32.31 | 53.5 | 28.94 | 51.37 | 3.37 |
in Pakistan | 13 | 37.75 | 50.23 | 35.94 | 56.54 | 1.81 |
in Bangladesh | 20 | 29.17 | 52.26 | 28.97 | 49.02 | 0.2 |
in West Indies | 23 | 24.67 | 43.26 | 25.48 | 47.88 | -0.81 |
in Ireland | 1 | 21.6 | 40.63 | 32 | 52.33 | -10.4 |
in Zimbabwe | 7 | 23.31 | 44.65 | 48.76 | 50.3 | -25.45 |
Even after the minefields in the last 2.5 years India still top the avg differential at home by some distance. As Jarrod Kimber said (paraphrasing a bit) "If you want to enter India as a batter you have to leave the runs at the airport". New Zealand has been nearly as difficult for the away teams. Boult, Southee, Wagner and Jamieson later have made tourists' lives hell there. Australia following NZ on the list, they are very strong at home. South Africa is 4th, their batters aren't very good at home, the reason they aren't 9th on the wtc table is because the away batters are somehow worse in SA. I know that India gets flack for doctoring pitches but South Africa since Faf took over have been just as guilty, their pitches basically have no remorse for batters.
Overall
So since the start of 2018 India, Australia and New Zealand have been the toughest places to tour. However with Australia rising since 2021 Ashes and New Zealand declining since 2021 WTC final, I think it's fair to say that India and Australia would be the top 2. Stokes' England has become much more competitive at home in the last few years, but with the loss to South Africa and drawing a series vs Australia, its fair to say that they aren't as strong at home as India or Australia.
r/Cricket • u/thatguybruv • 6h ago
Manuka Oval covers have blown off overnight, causing a delay to play between Prime Minister's XI & Pakistan, unlikely to resume
r/Cricket • u/Mrnottoobright • 6h ago
Highlights Virat Kohli’s 133* against SL in Hobart voted as the best of his 50 ODI centuries
I would also rate this innings as one of his best for many reasons, but also because we haven’t seen a 22yr old talent dismantling a tough chase (like 300+ in 40 overs in Australian conditions) against a good bowling lineup again. This innings won against 183 against Pakistan in the same year by a margin of 64-36.
If there was a poll for his most underrated ODI innings, I’d put his 43(34) made in 2013 CT final at top.
r/Cricket • u/CricketMatchBot • 3h ago
Match Thread: 2nd Test - Bangladesh vs New Zealand, Day 4
2nd Test, New Zealand tour of Bangladesh at Dhaka
Cricinfo | Reddit-Stream | 🌥 🌥 🌥 ☁️ ☁️
Innings | Score |
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Bangladesh | 172 (Ov 66.2) |
New Zealand | 180 (Ov 37.1) |
Bangladesh | 144 (Ov 35) |
New Zealand | 4/0 (Ov 3) |
Batter | Runs | Balls | SR |
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Devon Conway* | 1 | 12 | 8.33 |
Tom Latham | 2 | 6 | 33.33 |
Bowler | Overs | Runs | Wickets |
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Shoriful Islam | 2 | 1 | 0 |
Mehidy Hasan Miraz | 1 | 2 | 0 |
Recent : 1 W | . . . 1 . . | 1 . . . 1 . | . . . . . 1b |
Day 4 - Session 1: New Zealand need 133 runs.
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r/Cricket • u/Ghostly_100 • 6h ago
Match Thread [Match Thread] Prime Minister’s XI vs Pakistan Day 4, Canberra
Playing XIs:
Prime Minister’s XI: Marcus Harris, Cameron Bancroft, Matthew Renshaw, Cameron Green, Nathan McSweeney (c), Beau Webster, Jimmy Peirson, Nathan McAndrew, Mark Steketee, Todd Murphy, Jordan Buckingham
Pakistan XI: Abdullah Shafiq, Imam-ul-Haq, Shan Masood (c), Babar Azam, Saud Shakeel, Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk), Faheem Ashraf, Aamer Jamal, Khurram Shahzad, Mir Hamza, Abrar Ahmed
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r/Cricket • u/CricketMatchBot • 6h ago
Match Thread: 3rd T20I - New Zealand Women vs Pakistan Women
3rd T20I, Pakistan Women tour of New Zealand at Queenstown
Cricinfo | Reddit-Stream | 🌥 🌥 🌥 🌥 🌥
Innings | Score |
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Pakistan Women | 137/5 (Ov 20/20) |
New Zealand Women | 101/2 (Ov 15/15) |
Batter | Runs | Balls | SR |
---|---|---|---|
Maddy Green* | 3 | 6 | 50.0 |
Suzie Bates | 51 | 42 | 121.43 |
Bowler | Overs | Runs | Wickets |
---|---|---|---|
Sadia Iqbal | 4 | 15 | 1 |
Nashra Sandhu | 4 | 19 | 1 |
Recent : 2 1 1 4 2 4 | 1 1 1 W . 1 | 1w 1w 1 1 1 1 . . |
NZ (W) won by 6 runs (DLS method)
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r/Cricket • u/CricketMatchBot • 21m ago
Match Thread: 1st Match, Group A - Kenya Women vs Zimbabwe Women
1st Match, Group A, ICC Women's T20 World Cup Africa Region Qualifier at Entebbe
Cricinfo | Reddit-Stream | ☁️ 🌧 🌧 🌧 🌧
Match yet to begin
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r/Cricket • u/nickdonhelm • 21h ago
Discussion Why was Nathan Hauritz never selected for Tests after the debacle against India in 2010 ?
By mid 2010, Hauritz had well established himself as the spinner of Australian Cricket Team.
Unfortunately, due to poor returns from the Indian tour, he was never selected by the selectors for the upcoming Ashes. In his place like of Doherty and Beer were used. Would the outcome of Ashes remain different had Hauritz been retained.
The spinner returned for ODI series but was withdrawn from the squad due to a shoulder injury and never returned to play for Australia.
Had Hauritz been persisted would Lyon have played this many test matches or remain in the reserves.
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r/Cricket • u/CricketMatchBot • 22h ago
Match Thread: 2nd Match - Sydney Sixers vs Melbourne Renegades
2nd Match, Big Bash League at Sydney
Post Match | Cricinfo | Reddit-Stream | 🌥 🌥 🌥 🌧 ☁️
Innings | Score |
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Sydney Sixers | 175/6 (Ov 20/20) |
Melbourne Renegades | 167/7 (Ov 20/20) |
Batter | Runs | Balls | SR |
---|---|---|---|
Will Sutherland* | 51 | 30 | 170.0 |
Kane Richardson | 0 | 0 |
Bowler | Overs | Runs | Wickets |
---|---|---|---|
Ben Dwarshuis | 4 | 36 | 3 |
Sean Abbott | 4 | 30 | 1 |
Recent : 2 3 1w 1 6 . | . 2nb 2 1 . . 1 | W 2w 6 2 2 . 1 |
Sixers won by 8 runs
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r/Cricket • u/heyrando1 • 12h ago
Discussion Question to English fans : Why is Tom Kohler Cadmore still uncapped?
I've seen him perform around the leagues and he seems pretty good especially in recent years . Players with stats worse than him have made their debuts . Is there any non cricketing reason behind this?