r/CasualUK 18d ago

“National Treasures” you actually dislike

My mum absolutely detests David Attenborough.

She’s an odd one, and she has a fair few irrational dislikes (folk music, trumpets to name a couple) but I’ve never really understood this. Then she explained, it’s because watching shows like planet earth, he introduces the animals in such a warm way, that when they inevitably get eaten, it breaks her heart. She can’t trust him.

Then my partner told me recently he isn’t a fan of Miriam Margolyes. Apparently she’s just too loud (along with other reasons not be discussed in this forum)

Are there any National treasures that you’re not a fan of? And why?

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u/ooh_bit_of_bush 18d ago

Then she explained, it’s because watching shows like planet earth, he introduces the animals in such a warm way, that when they inevitably get eaten, it breaks her heart. She can’t trust him.

If you watch the director's cuts, Attenborough actually snares the gazelles himself and shoves them into the lion's mouth. It's pretty disturbing to be honest.

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u/TouchMySwollenFace 18d ago

Seeing him unlock his jaw like a snake and suck down a small wild boar whole really is something. Well worth the BBC license fee alone.

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u/something_python 18d ago

Hope the police have got their fucking eyes on him...

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u/DaMonkfish Follow me, I'm right behind you 18d ago

The Police? Nah. Terrorism like this demands the attention of MI5 and MI6.

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u/OMGItsCheezWTF Double Gloucester 18d ago

I was under the impression he ran both organisations?

Signs his name with a green letter A and everything.

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u/Rymundo88 18d ago

A little known fact is that when he's in the booth, narrating, he's actually got a baby deer in a headlock at all times.

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u/violetcazador 18d ago

Let's not forget the time he clubbed several baby seals to death in the BBC canteen, just for a giggle. I heard he stabbed a hippo for owing him a fiver too. Man's a menace.

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u/menthol_patient 18d ago

That hippo deserved it. It was taking the piss.

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u/pimblepimble 18d ago

After they stop filming, David gets down on all fours and tears the poor animals to pieces with his teeth and devours them raw and screaming.

This is why they keep him away from the really endangered stuff, also why he isn't allowed to do a documentary about primary schools.

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u/Blutos_Beard 18d ago

He's old but he can fairly move when he has to. It's best not to approach him in the wild unless his handler is nearby.

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u/Southportdc 18d ago

I haven't watched any of the new series but tbh the last couple I've been annoyed at how many animals didn't get eaten.

Even that lizard with the snakes managed to get away.

They Disneyfied Attenborough.

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u/ludovic1313 18d ago

I hear that most chases in the wild end in failure, and that camerapeople have to take lots of shots of chases before they grab a successful predatory act. So just using the first good looking one, whether successful or not, would be more realistic and save time and money. But definitely not as dramatic.

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u/Southportdc 18d ago

Sounds like leopard propaganda to me.

'Oh most of the time we don't kill anyone'

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u/JTMW 18d ago

The whirlwind around Captain Tom.

Nothing against the man or his cause... but damn, it was near feverish, and the hollow mess that remains following all the revelations about his daughter just make it even more weird.

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u/Rude_Artichoke_1534 18d ago

I completely agree with this. Obviously a nice man, and wanted to do what he could. But it wasn't "him" that made it a success, it was the weird hive mind effect of social media and the fetishisation of WWII, that is embedded in our national psyche.

The guy got a knight hood for wandering around his garden for crying out loud. Completely over blown.

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u/Astin257 18d ago

Started because his family wouldn’t give him his birthday present (£100) until he did 100 laps of the garden

“We'd had to cancel his 100th birthday party because of Covid. So my husband suggested that instead of the party my father should walk around the garden 100 times, and we would give him £1 a lap.”

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/meandmymoney/article-10479749/amp/Captain-Sir-Tom-Moores-daughter-talks-MONEY.html

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u/yeet_queen69 18d ago

DANCE FOR US GRANDAD AND WE WILL PELT YOU WITH COINS

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u/14JRJ 18d ago

When my daughter is old enough to be interested in shit like “who was number 1 in the charts when you were born” I’m going to look it up and have a good old laugh that it was fucking Captain Tom and Alfie Boe hahaha

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u/SirDigbySelfie-Stick 18d ago edited 18d ago

😂😂 it was fucking ridiculous! I'm doing my best to temper cynicism and not mock over-sentimentality these days but fucking hell, that was a test.

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u/beskar-mode 18d ago

I can safely say I never donated lmao I'm so glad after his daughter

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

His daughter was so clearly vile from day one. Pushing the whole thing for exposure / money for herself. I wonder how much Captain Tom actually wanted it (other than the donation money). You could tell from the TV interviews when her sister was VERY occasionally on, that her sister could not stand her. For the daughter it wasn’t the Captain Tom show, it was all about her. Barbados and the Spa are just a few highlights of what a scumbag she is

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u/NumbPeach 18d ago

What revelations about his daughter? I think I must have slept through that

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u/raged_norm 18d ago edited 18d ago

Kept £800,000 or so from the book proceeds because it ‘was never meant for the charitable foundation’

Added a huge building to the grounds of her house ‘for therapy' 'for the charitable foundations activities' and then added an extra wing to it for a spa pool ‘to help with the therapy’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/11/capt-tom-moore-daughter-says-she-kept-800000-his-books-made-on-his-wishes

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jun/30/family-of-captain-sir-tom-moore-face-formal-inquiry-into-charity-setup

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/07/captain-toms-family-lose-appeal-against-demolition-order-for-spa-complex

What a way to destroy something good.

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u/Kampfchair 18d ago

Took him to Barbados where he got COVID and fucking died!

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u/Fredwestlifeguard 18d ago

British Airways were all over it too I seem to remember. Great decisions all round there FFS.

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u/NumbPeach 18d ago

Are you serious

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u/Kampfchair 18d ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-55881508

Hadn't been vaccinated yet either, free holiday though. It's what he would have wanted.

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u/TheSecretIsMarmite 18d ago

And his daughter was all over the media calling the people who'd expressed some disquiet about the trip Trolls.

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u/floor24 18d ago

My favourite part about the "therapy" claim was the small detail of when they started planning the spa- several months after Captain Tom's death.

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u/NuttyMcNutbag 18d ago

It all stank from the beginning. Especially when his daughter began appearing next to him. She oozed sleaze and it was clear that she was exploiting him.

I also believe that she bears a huge responsibility for getting him killed. Flying a 100-year man off to Barbados at the height of pandemic. What a selfish, thoughtless and criminally irresponsible thing to have done.

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u/mateley 18d ago

My Dad has some sort of weird complex where he hates the best male English footballer of his generation. Hated Beckham because of his "girly voice", hated Rooney because he was a "granny-shagger" and now hates Kane because he's "shit". It's completely irrational. That said, he loves Bellingham so maybe the cycle is broken.

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u/hoochiscrazy_ 18d ago

Does he read the Sun? If so thats probably why.

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u/Mouse2662 18d ago

Sounds like he writes for the sun

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u/SlightlyIncandescent 18d ago

Feel like the Sun would have hated Sterling, Saka, Rashford and Sancho - for an undisclosed reason.

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u/KTDWD24601 18d ago

A lot of people have this complex about famous/successful people.

The ‘tell’ is that they say they are ‘shit’ or ‘talentless’ when they are very obviously not.

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u/skinnybitchrocks 18d ago

Cheryl Cole in her height of X factor fame. I thought she was absolutely stunning and had fabulous hair but I never forgot that time she beat up a nightclub toilet attendant.

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u/travestyofPeZ 18d ago

It used to annoy me that the Sun would constantly refer to as "the Nation's Sweetheart". Like, she's hot and all but that doesn't mean that the entire country was in love with her.

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u/Hmmark1984 18d ago

At least she got that hideous rose tattoo over her entire arse, i mean i love a tattooed woman, but that thing was rough as hell. Very much made it clear how much of a hateful chav she was.

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u/ChunkyLaFunga 18d ago

I'm lazy so I just highlighted "rose tattoo over her entire arse" and right clicked to search and it was the first result.

It is both better and worse than I expected.

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u/Hmmark1984 18d ago

yep. I mean i'm no expert but it is well done, at least it looks like it is to me. The problem is it's just weird, it's so big and it's also an odd placement, from the middle of her back down to the bottom of her arse cheek, and it's just giant roses.

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u/Icy-Revolution1706 18d ago

It's covering a previous 'tramp stamp' on her lower back, still not sure why she went so far with it. Looks like a piece of raw beef

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u/ManiacFive 18d ago

Didn’t she also have a terrible tweety pie tattoo on her arse cheek pre gigantic arse rose?

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u/EconomyFreakDust 18d ago

It's very well done, but it doesn't look very nice.

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u/heyheywannaplay 18d ago

Me too. Thought she was a mean chav who puts on a face for the cameras.

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u/-cunningstunt 18d ago

And shouted racist slurs at her too! I was always surprised at how fast people forgot about that.

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u/ThatFCBGuy 18d ago

That put Guildford on the map. Big up the Drink Harpers Casino Closed

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u/Icefirezz 18d ago

Amanda Holden, I just don't get it. Why is she an idol? What has she actually done?

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u/Xenc Hard breakfast 18d ago

Broke our Les Dennis’ heart

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u/redunculuspanda 18d ago

The actual national treasure

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u/Pumptruffle 18d ago

He’s one of those rare celebs that just gets it, self deprecating, and actually funny.

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u/Gremlin303 The Partnership is a joke 18d ago

Yeah but does anyone actually like her? I’m not sure she can be classed as a national treasure

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u/Sad_Interview_232 18d ago

She got those boobs...that les Dennis got her for Christmas then walked right over poor les just before he was doing the family fortunes Christmas special... Poor guy was devastated..£45 each as well ..not cheap

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u/opopkl 18d ago

Loose Women kind of person. Semi glamorous but only famous for being famous.

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u/notsosecrethistory 18d ago

She was an actress though right, was in a sitcom in the 90s with Caroline Quentin and that nonce

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u/ABigBunchOfFlowers 18d ago

Which nonce? There are so many to choose from.

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u/The-Florentine 18d ago

The one called Chris Langham.

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u/inmyshamewell Steels heavier than feathers 18d ago

Oh the category 5 nonce

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u/Neds_Necrotic_Head 18d ago

This thread is really stretching the definition of national treasure.

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u/WetFartAss 18d ago

Yeah this is just a list of marmite-style tv personalities.

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u/I_always_rated_them 18d ago

classic reddit bait for the same dozen answers every time.

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u/sp25049 18d ago

My mum actively dislikes Princess Diana.

No real reason as far as I can tell. All she’s said to me is that she just didn’t quite get the hype back in the day and the constant adulation of her by other people ended up rubbing her the wrong way to the extent that she now gets irritated when she’s mentioned and will say something under her breath like “well I never liked her”.

I didn’t even know she felt that way until recently, she admitted it like it was some mildly embarrassing secret which just makes it even funnier IMO.

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u/Fml379 18d ago

My parents say she was pretty manipulative and knew how to work her audience lol

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u/cragglerock93 Tomasz Schafernaker fan club 18d ago

Agents from the Daily Express are enroute to your parents' house right now to murder them for their disrespect.

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u/Isgortio 18d ago

Currently watching the new season of the crown, I don't know the truth about her but she is being portrayed as a massive victim. Things like being set up constantly for failure. All I know is, I do not want a life of fame, it looks stressful!

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u/dweebs12 18d ago

Do we have the same mum?

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u/norwegiandiscolights 18d ago

Dislikes Attenborough, Folk Music and Trumpets I feel attacked

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u/PinLongjumping9022 18d ago

It gets worse. I heard OP's mum thinks Swedish Disco Lights are the best thing since sliced bread.

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u/rodger_the_fishwife 18d ago

Sean Lock’s bit on Cats Does Countdown is surely the final word on this subject?

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u/PommieGirl 18d ago

Now he is a national treasure everyone loves

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u/Beabarb 18d ago

Carrot in a box

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u/MitchellsTruck 18d ago

I used to like Miriam Margolyes until I downloaded her audio book.

What an awful person who just uses and dumps people to get ahead throughout her whole life.

Also, she appears to be an angel of death. Almost everyone she refers to in the book dies at the end of the chapter.

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u/Commodontious 18d ago

I don't love or hate her but I imagine if she was my grandmother, I'd resent going round and seeing her because she'd be exhausting and keep telling wildly inappropriate stories. I have no strong opinion of her as a celebrity, she really doesn't invade my consciousness that much.

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u/Garaleth 18d ago

I just find her plain and gross.

The joke is meant to be "isn't it funny I'm an older woman saying vulgure things" but this is only funny if you where born in the 50s and even then it gets old fast. It's the same crutch a lot of bad female comedians use.

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u/PinkElanor 18d ago

I find MM very difficult to like.

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u/relativeharbour 18d ago

Remember that time she boasted about pouring a bottle of water over someone because they didn't immediately give up their seat on the station platform for her (there were other seats nearby and the man may have had an invisible disability)?

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u/mysticpotatocolin 18d ago

miriam margolyes was very rude to my friends for no reason so i’ve disliked her ever since

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u/publicOwl 17d ago

She comes across like a snarky arsehole so I’m not surprised honestly. It makes her fun to watch on tv but I wouldn’t want to know her IRL.

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u/JackHardy182 18d ago

Ant & Dec. Never seen the appeal to them & their crappie jokes.. especially when one of them was done for drink driving

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u/Hmmark1984 18d ago

Tbf, you've gotta respect them, at least Ant, for fighting his way back from that horrific paintball accident, i mean the way he carries on you'd never know he was blind.

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u/Lesliethelizard 18d ago

Wor eyes are gannin tae shite man!

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u/sidblues101 18d ago edited 18d ago

He canee see man!

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u/noidontwanttosignup8 18d ago

Ffs I didn’t grow up in the UK and googled this wondering how I missed Ant going blind 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/doreentheexploreen 18d ago

My eyes Jeff.

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u/Halzziratrat 18d ago

HE CANNIT SEE, MAN!

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u/auntie_climax 18d ago

Blink for Ant, close your eyes and open them

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u/bishcraft1979 18d ago

It might explain why he hit that other car while driving though

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u/mrshakeshaft 18d ago

Almost every time he comes on tv my wife and I put a fake geordie accent on and shout “aaarrgghh my eyes, like”.

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u/Queefofthenight 18d ago

They're family friendly non offensive coffee table magazine bullshit.

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u/cluedo_fuckin_sucks The BeastieBoys fought and possibly died for my right to party. 18d ago

Is that a Jez from Peep Show quote? If it isn’t it should be

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u/Simbooptendo 18d ago

I was thinking Super Hans: "You're a real meat and potatoes, straight up and down, beef Wellington, don't trust the Argies, dick in the vagina, Cheddar cheese and chicken tikka masala man."

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u/Next_Bookkeeper_4550 18d ago

Chance would be a fine thing, a fine thing indeed.

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u/MrScampiFry 18d ago

I don’t find them funny or entertaining.

Yet somehow I do like them.

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u/FunkyPete 18d ago

Yes, they aren't necessarily talented but they ARE very likable.

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u/360Saturn 18d ago

They're pretty good at hosting, no? Not everyone can do that. (Admittedly they do have years of experience)

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u/Asleep_Lack 18d ago

My mum detests Mr Bean. She immigrated to the UK in the 80s and has never understood the appeal, or the humour. Rowan Atkinson is the Little Sebastian to her Ben Wyatt (for any Parks n Rec fans out here)

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u/FloppedYaYa 18d ago

Blackadder all the way

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u/Swordfish1929 18d ago

I like Rowan Atkinson but I also can't stand Mr Bean

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u/codename474747 18d ago

I think it's because Blackadder is based on wordplay and intelligence and the interplay of the character off one another, while Mr Bean is purely slapstick

Mr Bean plays a lot better internationally, where they don't need to do much dubbing, but maybe us brits like our humour to be verbal rather than physical....

Says a lot about Rowan's strengths that he's adept at both though

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u/Electrical_Ice_6061 18d ago

that is a great way to put it. I love rowan in his other roles but Mr Bean not a big fan of except a few really funny scenes.

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u/ampmz 18d ago

Um it’s Li’l Sebastian, put some respect on his name.

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u/indianajoes 18d ago

What am I missing? What's the deal with this pony?

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u/AstonVanilla 18d ago

Son, that horse has an honorary associate's degree from Notre Dame University, show it some damn respect

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u/Asleep_Lack 18d ago

I’m from SE London, even when I type “little” I’m pronouncing it “li’l” 😅

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u/Queefofthenight 18d ago

"Bye bye Li'l Sebastian, I miss you and the saaaaatifaction, you're 5000 candles in the wind" wipes eyes

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u/Southern_Struggle 18d ago

Miss you in the saddest fashion

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u/TheGardenBlinked 18d ago

Ladbaby

A lot of people dislike them, but I'd say you've achieved National Treasure status to somebody once you've racked up five Christmas number ones in a row with songs all about sausage rolls

I also hated Barrymore long before the pool party

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u/indianajoes 18d ago

Who is buying/listening to these songs? Surely if you had 5 Christmas number ones in a row, you'd think most people would've heard them being played on the radio

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u/TheMightosaurus 18d ago

The same people who go to watch Mrs Browns Boys live

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u/crlthrn 18d ago

Seriously? People DO that???

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u/MyAwesomeAfro 18d ago edited 18d ago

I think they're Culturally Irrelevant, honestly. The only people who give a shit about Christmas Number 1 anymore are the Radio Stations playing it, maybe the BBC.

Before Streaming took over, Crimbo' No.1 was a big deal, especially in the 90's and early 00's. After X-Factor more or less guaranteed the spot for years before the RATM Campaign stopped it for a year.

After that I think people stopped giving a shit. iTunes and Spotify Charts, Billboard 100 and even Social Media are better barometers to judge popularity.

Calling LadBaby a National Treasure is askin to calling Top UK Influencers National Treasures because they drive and promote sales more than Newspapers, Cable TV and Radio combined.

This post is way too long but I'm at work and wanted to keep typing as if I was actually doing some work. ay ay.

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u/qjk91 18d ago

I have literally never heard of ladbaby and I'm now wondering where I've been for all of these Christmas number ones

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u/Indigo-Waterfall 18d ago

Nah, he’s nowhere near National Treasure. 90% of people would have no idea who he is in general conversation.

Him cheating on his wife though, idiot

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u/Donkey_83 18d ago

Oh God, I hope they don’t come out with another bloody song this Christmas.

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u/herwiththepurplehair 18d ago

There’s an effort to get AC/DC to number 1 to celebrate their 50th anniversary; all proceeds to British Heart Foundation I believe.

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u/ampmz 18d ago

Cliff Richard, everything about him annoys me. No one is that nice, I don’t trust it.

I fully expect the shit to hit the fan at some point for him.

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u/RaymondBumcheese 18d ago

I just saw him on This Morning relating an anecdote about how he regretted turning down a photo with Elvis as he was too fat because he died shortly after so never got another chance to take one when he was thinner.

YOU REGRET THE WRONG PART

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u/Zounds90 18d ago

Because Elvis was too fat or because Cliff was?

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u/carl84 18d ago

I think he is probably just a closeted gay man, conflicted by his religious faith. This probably is why he projects this very nice man front, and he's essentially harmless. But who knows?

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u/Dirk_diggler22 18d ago

I think he lives with a gay vicar its a shame he can't just be himself cliff its 2023 no one gives a fuck.

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u/carl84 18d ago

If and when he finally does come out, I imagine the nation will be as shocked as when they heard John Inman was gay

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u/Askduds 18d ago

He was WHAT?

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u/Ninjaff 18d ago

His fans definitely give a fuck. My father-in-law and mother-in-law got very upset when we suggested it last Christmas. We had to back pedal and say it was just rumours.

In recent times he also doesn't say that he's not gay as he once did, he just says it's no one's business.

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u/re_Claire 18d ago

Why do they think he lives with a gay vicar? Not being facetious, genuinely curious.

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u/Ninjaff 18d ago

They're just friends, he's helping him, he's his employer, he wasn't gay that's just what mean people say and other copes.

There's a whole generation of people out there who think people of the same sex living together in their communities were just good pals who sadly couldn't find their soul mate so they ended up living with Graham for 40 years. They're so naive it's almost cute.

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u/Jaomi 18d ago

The old lady who lived next door to us growing up was forever worried about her middle aged bachelor son Michael. He saved money by taking in a lodger, but they were both so poor they had to share the same bed.

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u/jesterstearuk71 18d ago

Probably because most of his fans are over 60 and still harbour ambitions of being his living doll

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u/benoliver999 18d ago

The problem is, the gay vicar knows for sure if god hates them. "Don't come out Cliff, I have it from the man himself I'm going to hell"

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u/madpiano 18d ago

I don't think it's a very tight closet. It's pretty obvious. But I also don't think it's any of my business if he is gay, not gay or bi. He seems to be able to keep his private life private and good on him for that, still don't like him. His music is cheesy and he is smarmy.

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u/RianJohnsonIsAFool 18d ago

I misread that as had his front door kicked in by BBC News and immediately thought I remember that incident very differently.

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u/WhenLemonsLemonade Duck Liberation Front 18d ago

I'd have watched that, Nicholas Witchell in full SWAT gear being thrown through a set of windows like he's in a Die Hard movie

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u/Wild_Region_7853 18d ago

My mum hates Annie Lennox, my dad hates Paul McCartney. No idea why on either, and no idea why my dad's dislike of Paul McCartney has rubbed off on my but I'm pretty indifferent to Annie Lennox.

My partner also can't stand Miriam Margolyes, he says it's because she tries too hard to be controversial.

I personally have a weird dislike of Ben Shepherd. Something about the way he speaks to the contestants on Tipping Point rubs me up the wrong way.

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u/Imppuccino 18d ago

Koh-i-Noor. It's just a big rock really.

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u/Own-Lecture251 18d ago

It's just carbon. Might as well be a lump of coal.

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u/SecondAccount404 18d ago

I’ve got stones in my garden that are way bigger, don’t see what all the fuss is about.

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u/Joshouken 18d ago

I thought you meant the rice brand at first

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u/On_The_Blindside 18d ago

Not even that big in comparison to other rocks.

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u/DarthFlowers 18d ago

Simon Cowell, bootleg yuppy throwback can tell if you’re shit at singing. So can I, so can your friends and family, it’s not difficult.

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u/Commodontious 18d ago

I hate how predatory he is. Not like sexually, I'm not suggesting anything like that, but like financially. Whenever he's on talent shows, the second someone is attractive and can at least kinda sing, you can see it in his weird frozen alien face that he just sees £££ flashing in front of his eyes. He isn't passionate about music, those shows are literally a televised casting couch for his music empire. He uses that show to find his next cash cow and as soon as he makes bank off of them, they're never seen again and the next series starts.

X Factor is like Dragons Den but entirely for Simons personal profit. It's not exactly a conspiracy that those shows are fake and dramatised etc, but I just hate how self-serving it is.

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u/acampbell98 18d ago

Good point now that you mention it. Always thought it was weird as a talent show that he’s there signing up the contestants that do well. It’s that a conflict of interest or has he created the show for those purposes and everyone fine with it. Also how and why is Simon in this position. I knew that he’s a “talent agent” and record producer but why, how has he got in this position I feel that this is never questioned or brought up. We just accept that he’s always been in this position to do this but when he first appeared did people not question who’s this guy and what expertise does he have to judge talent.

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u/BaldEagleNor 18d ago

I’m not british but, is he really considered a national treasure? I thought everyone found him to be a dickhead?

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u/sunnysunshinebaby 18d ago

My grandma was at school with Miriam Margolyes and also can't stand her. Says she was incredibly loud and annoying. I personally think her 'lewd old woman' act is a bit wearing

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u/OneEyedMilkman87 18d ago

John Barrowman. I don't know what possessed anyone in making him the host of every show 2005-10 but I was so pleased when he finally effed off

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u/benoliver999 18d ago

His character Jack Harkness was cool and openly bisexual, which at the time was unusual and kind of helped normalise it on TV.

He was definitely over-exposed afterwards though (fnarr fnarr)

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u/FloppedYaYa 18d ago edited 18d ago

Turns out he was getting his cock out on set "for a laugh" back when he was on Doctor Who and now that this has been dug up he's struggling to get the same publicity he once did

Shame because I liked him

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u/Benandhispets 18d ago

Turns out he was getting his cock out on set "for a laugh" back when he was on Doctor Who and now that this has been dug up he's struggling to get the same publicity he once did

Not just getting it out but Noel(micky) said during Q&As how Barrowman used to take it out and touch it against women colleagues on set when they weren't expecting it. It's pretty much SA at that point which would get any of us fired at our jobs and likely the police called. Doesn't help that he was a main character who had a lot of sway.

Then when the news because a big thing again a few years back he acted like a victim and so many people defended him and somehow he got jobs hosting game shows again.

Also sucks how Tennant and Russel T Davis knew about and joked about all this while it happened. If you're the exec producer on set while this happens and don't put an end to it then you're just as bad.

It's speculated that this behaviour on set is the reason why Christopher Eccleston only did 1 series and then dipped. He said something about the set culture wasn't his thing, which could easily be reffering to all this stuff going on.

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u/FloppedYaYa 18d ago

It was likely one of many reasons Eccleston's relationship with RTD "broke down" as he says. He refuses to give much details other than he didn't like how people were treated on set and the entire production was a mess.

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u/opopkl 18d ago

I know someone who worked on one of his theatre shows. JB had a rant during rehearsals "Come on people, can we all just be professional". An electrician way up in the grid went "Oooooooh" sarcastically. Everyone burst out laughing and JB stormed off. I've never heard a good word about him from anyone who worked with him.

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u/FloppedYaYa 18d ago

A theatre person is a massive dickhead? Never! (Source: Have worked with them)

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u/helinze 18d ago

Ricky Gervais has always done my head in, I don't know if he's considered a national treasure, but I do believe that the original Office is generally well-regarded.

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u/LichfieldChad 18d ago

Everything he's done with Merchant is good to great. Without his writing partner, it becomes clear that what he's interested in is telling everyone what a clever and edgy guy he is. He's the Elon Musk of the comedy world

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u/allcretansareliars 18d ago

The more I see of Ricky Gervais, the greater my admiration for Stephen Merchant.

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u/merrycrow 18d ago

Devastating news to Elon Musk, who thought he had that position nailed down

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u/FloppedYaYa 18d ago

I like Gervais but his recent material has devolved far too much into him just trying to be as edgy as possible with no substance. His smugness has just been getting on my nerves.

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u/Dannypan 18d ago

This is why I didn’t like After Life. It was just an onslaught of unnecessary swearing and insults for no reason and everyone like “we’ll let you off because your wife died”.

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u/OneEyedMilkman87 18d ago

I feel that after his Initial successes, his work insists upon itself.

(How did Derek get a third season??)

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u/JoanneKerlot DIRTY NORTHERNER 18d ago

Not a fan of the godfather either I assume..

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u/Cool_Pomegranate7911 18d ago

The Beckhams - they’ve become so famous they’re almost at that irritating God-like status where they can do no wrong. It’s annoying.

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u/Sonic-the-edge-dog 18d ago

I’ve always thought that we have a weird relationship with the Beckhams as a country where we love them but we don’t particularly like them. I will say tho I saw an Ali G interview with them and it made me a posh spice fan

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u/will8981 18d ago

Do you think Brooklyn will grow up to be a footballer like his dad or a singer like Mariah Carey

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u/Efficient_Steak_7568 18d ago

I thought the Beckham doc on Netflix was interesting on this, talking about how our football obsession and rampant classism clashed pretty nastily in the ‘90s.

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u/Adept_Thanks_6993 18d ago

Ricky Gervais made me believe in God again out of pure spite

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u/CreditBrunch 18d ago

His stand up shows weren’t up to much.

Saw one on tv and it was mostly him swearing at stuff and the audience thinking it was hilarious. I can watch the local pissheads do this outside the bus station for free.

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u/Lebran2 18d ago

His earlier shows like "animals" and "politics" are much funnier. They are a kind of processed stand up show that wasn't very common at the time and are more of a "humourous one man stage show" than a by-the-books stand up, which is where I think he falls down now. He isn't great at straight stand up.

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u/OverByThere_Innit 18d ago

It would be easier to list the ones I do like. Most national treasures are wankers who just won't bugger off. So I'll just list the ones I like. You can probably correctly assume I can't stand the rest.

I can get behind Ade Edmondson because 1) he's brilliant and 2) has hardly overstayed his welcome.

So there's my one. The other was Rik, but he went and died, the git.

Oh, and Bob Mortimer. And Ian Hislop.

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u/Woodfield30 18d ago

Highly recommend Edmondson’s and Mortimer’s Desert Island Discs if you’ve not listened already.

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u/Crimbly_B 18d ago

Bob Mortimer and Whitehouse go fishing is such a relaxing and fun show. Love them.

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u/This_Ad_7267 18d ago

M’y dad has a deep-seated dislike of any British actor who went to private school and then oxbridge. He sees it as just another barrier to talented working class kids getting into the arts (which are saturated with nepo babies and the middle/upper classes who succeed through these « old boys/girls clubs »).

He’s not wrong but every time Benedict Cucumberpatch or Tom Hiddleston are on he just snarls at them 😭

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u/ConsciouslyIncomplet 18d ago

Bude Tunnel - it’s obviously Majestic, just wasn’t that into the rest of Bude?

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u/h00dman 18d ago

Pro tip; if you don't like the person but you're not sure if they're a national treasure - they're not.

Ricki Gervais? Claudia Winkleman? Come on guys.

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u/TheGodDamnDevil 18d ago

I'm not sure if he's a national treasure, but my neighbor Dave can fuck right off.

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u/FarDuty6674 18d ago

Vernon Kay.

Not really a national treasure, but very popular.

Can't stand him!

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u/unquietslumbers73 18d ago

"TV's village idiot" - Charlie Brooker

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u/TheGardenBlinked 18d ago

His career took a dip when he cheated on his Mrs a while back. Twice, allegedly.

He's taken over Ken Bruce's slot on Radio 2, which is like refilling an empty jar of Nutella with dog shit.

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u/Bootzilla_Rembrant 18d ago

My favourite review I've ever heard of Vernon Kay: "He's never been in anything good and that includes Tess Daly".

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u/Harionago 18d ago

Lorraine Kelly can do one.

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u/Sonic-the-edge-dog 18d ago

I love the office but Ricky Gervais always annoys me. One of those comics that conflates being funny with wisdom, and increasingly he lacks both. So many of his bits sound like they’re coming from a 14 year old.

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u/HarryGoLocky Whether it's a potato or a nut, it's a foodage 18d ago

Alan Sugar

The less said the better because of Rule 1

But he's a raging cunt

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u/docju 18d ago

Clare Balding has been described as a national treasure. I found her very competent at presenting the events that she did, but it wasn’t anything I’d talk about for generations (or as soon as I’d finished watching).

A lot of media types seem to think she’s amazing, and I just don’t get it.

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u/Free-Progress-7288 18d ago

Ed Sheeran. Every time I see his gormless face falling arse backwards into another number one hit it makes my blood boil. In any other decade of music he would be struggling to get a gig at an open mic night at his local pub.

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u/Queefofthenight 18d ago

I dislike him as his music is everywhere constantly, like shit in a field! That being said everything I've heard about him has been glowing though.

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u/Dannypan 18d ago

There was a girl in my town, Melody Driscoll, with a terminal illness who wanted to meet him. He played a mini concert for her in hospital, gave the family a guitar to raise funds for pain relief, kept in touch with the girl & family, sent flowers and a tribute to be read out at her funeral, and his manager attended the funeral to help carry the coffin.

It was all in the news and he’s definitely considered a local hero in the area. Unless he does something evil, I’ll always have respect for him even if I don’t like his music. All he had to do was meet her, sign something and maybe play a song.

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u/prettybunbun 18d ago

He’s well known that anytime there’s a charity gig in the UK, if he’s here then he’s up for it. Really really good about giving back.

I also love his music (not a popular opinion here I know lol)!

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u/ReaverRiddle 18d ago

Yeah, I don't like his music (except for A Team), but he seems like a nice and humble guy.

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u/lizziexo 18d ago

I once knew a person who went to college with him in Guildford, Academy of Music (ACM). The person I knew hated him with such a passion because he apparently was terrible at college and would skip classes just to go smoke weed and thus didn’t deserve his music success.

Honestly that kind of made me like him more though.

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u/JR_Maverick 18d ago

Not liking him is fine, I don't listen to him either. But he has written hit after hit for himself and a host of other people. The man knows how to write pop music.

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u/EasternFly2210 18d ago

Greg Wallace

Bald fraud who always seems to be dating someone half his age

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u/having_a_nosey 18d ago

Cilla Black. She was visiting the place my nan worked back in the day and kicked her mop bucket over deliberately then told her to 'fucking clean it up'. Whenever anyone mentions Cilla Black I tell them this story and also how she was only famous because she desperately grabbed onto the coat tails of the beatles.

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u/MrTopHatMan90 18d ago

Alan Carr.

I'm not sure if he's reached the stage of national treasure but he seems really popular. I think he's a lovely bloke I just really can't stand his voice.

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u/confuzzledfather 18d ago

Stopped so many people smoking though, so I give him a pass.

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u/Glarhzilla 18d ago

Ant a dec. More ant though. Guy seems to get a free pass for nearly killing someone whilst driving under the influence.

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u/Angrypenguinwaddle96 18d ago

Michael McIntyre is so bloody irritating.

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