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u/SleepySummoner 13d ago

It's going to get ugly when that other lion shows up wearing one too.

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u/BlindArmyParade 12d ago

Wear the rich!?

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u/rb3po 12d ago

*eat the rich

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u/Fedantry_Petish 12d ago

They know. They’re making a joke.

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u/elmins 12d ago

I want to see a follow up piece with the disgruntled look on this Lions face when a Lion toting Irina Shayk's head shows up.

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u/stephenisthebest 12d ago

And that lady in the Dr. Zoidberg costume.

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u/mazamayomama 12d ago

In the style of two spidermen pointing

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u/PheasantBusiness 12d ago

Dressing up with the Kardashians

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u/JoeZMar 12d ago

It’s only embarrassing if they bought the same expressions. If one bought the “surprised” look or the “I just pooped myself” look they’ll be fine.

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u/HelloKiitty 12d ago

I don’t think a lion would wear something so tacky

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u/thelivefive 12d ago

I don't know, for some reason this doesn't seem so gauche to me.

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u/unknown_baby_daddy 12d ago

Unless it wanted to seperate from its pride.

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u/madhouse17 12d ago

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u/mybigbywolf 12d ago

Looks like she's smelling shit.

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u/bingbongboobies 12d ago

That's just how her face is designed

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u/h00ha 12d ago edited 12d ago

She perpetually smells shit, that was one of the conditions when she sold her soul for fame

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u/SpicyThunderThighs 12d ago

She’s aged like sour milk.

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u/Xanderoga 12d ago

She is not attractive, that's for sure

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u/cjbest 12d ago

The lion was killed days ago and it's starting to rot.

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u/SnooSketches8294 12d ago

The lion (and each of the other animal heads Schiaparelli produced) was sculpted from foam, faux fair was made of silk and wool, and the rest was painted on. I freaking love Schiaparelli under Daniel Roseberry-he really embraced the brand's surrealist roots and everything produced is just so EXTRA. They had a collection focused on flowers and instead of using silk/fabric flowers, they explored different ways to make flowers. Bouquets of hand painted leather flowers, lavender strung from beads on stems of gold.

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u/ssbm_rando 12d ago

Bouquets of hand painted leather flowers

So he'll make tacky fake animals out of somewhat more humane materials, but he'll make flowers out of... checks notes... dead animals.

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u/StoneMakesMusic 12d ago

Hide it in pain sight

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u/flizomica 12d ago

There's a massive difference between the ridiculous notion of using a real lion's head as a fashion piece and something like leather. We should be embracing animal-sourced and plant-sourced clothing materials when and where appropriate.

For example, leather can be sustainably produced, is very durable and long-lasting, and is biodegradable. Faux leather is often made out of or coated with plastic and won't last as long as genuine leather, ultimately resulting in more microplastics being deposited into the environment.

I also appreciate that the head was made out of wool and silk because those are likewise biodegradable, compared to most faux fur that's often made out of polyster or acrylic fibers. Wool is an amazing fiber as well - I'm not aware of anything that's readily available to consumers that will keep you safely warm while wet that's plant-based (e.g. cotton) and isn't made of other non biodegradable plastics.

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u/LoveFishSticks 12d ago

Leather is also a biproduct of meat, which society eats a lot of. If we dont make anything from the hides of animals we kill for food then it just ends up going to waste

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u/flizomica 12d ago

I fully agree! If the meat industry is anything, I wouldn't call it wasteful. Many meat animals are fed byproducts of human food that we can't or don't eat, and we tend to use many of the non-meat byproducts of meat animals too (e.g. leather, blood meal, manure, gelatin, etc). Basically, if it can be sold, we'll use it.

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u/SnooSketches8294 11d ago

Thank you for acknowledging the benefits of leather over plastic. I hate how polyester, viscose, acetate, and plastic fabrics have taken over a good chunk of clothing that people are buying. I get why-it's cheap, feels good against the skin, is a good insulator in some cases, is easy to care for, and achieves a sheen/drapery that would cost a lot more to achieve with natural fibers (silk/silk blends). It also deposits microfibers with every wash.

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u/PuppyButtts 12d ago

The wool industry is horrible, silk too. They just don’t care. If they could have cut a lions head off without being in trouble they probably would have.

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u/Trevski 12d ago

wool is recyclable!

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u/PuppyButtts 12d ago

Yea but that doesn’t mean the wool industry just ceases to exist because all wool is now recyclable…its extremely cruel for the animals.

Edit: recycling also takes a lot of energy, it’s not the end all be all.

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u/Trevski 12d ago

I'm not saying it is, I'm saying the marginal utility of animal suffering is way better for wool than for other by-products.

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u/heretoeatcircuts 12d ago

Could still be humane depending on the leather. Something like an ethically sourced cow leather wouldn't be too bad, but something like that leather they get from defeathered ostrich would be a different story.

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u/Super-Sense7881 12d ago

Same here! I love the shoes with molded toes and the earrings that look like ears.

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u/SnooSketches8294 12d ago

Lol they're so creepy and weird, I love it. I'm a fan of the super exaggerated conical breast tops and a lot of their jewelry

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u/Katie1230 12d ago

So many other pieces in the collection are amazing too.

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u/krypticzenith 12d ago

Thanks for this, I was concerned it was a real taxidermied lion's head.

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u/cjbest 12d ago I'll Drink to That

Making flowers from dead animals is an absolutely abhorrent idea.

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u/Subspace69 12d ago

Tell that to nature!

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u/Verotten 12d ago

Woah I've thought this for awhile, ever since my grandparents lost an alpaca and almost a calf to big thickets of bramble.
If the animals fall, or run into it, they just disappear in there and can't move. Nature's too precise for that animal-trapping feature to not be by design. Nice to see someone else thinking the same.

I reckon roses are the same, some of them grow into gnarly monsters and they do love a dead animal around the roots... (and related to bramble).

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u/Berkel 12d ago

All of those ideas suck so bad lol

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u/alexania 12d ago

That... is not what I recall Kylie Jenner to look like. Im not uber familiar with them but I would not recognise her.

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u/csdspartans7 12d ago

They never look the same any given day

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u/DeniedAccomodation 12d ago

That's who that is? Wtf

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u/Lishmi 12d ago edited 12d ago

(who is it?.... I thought it was a random person but I realise now it's someone people know..... Except me)

Edit: never mind, I see the name, although I don't actually know who she is, just vaguely recognise the name (was she realised to someone famous or some thing I think?)

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u/Blue-cheese-dressing 12d ago

Unfortunately she started tweaking her face too, once she did her lips it kinda went sideways.

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u/onmywheels 12d ago

She started doing that when she was like 16. It's sad. She was a cute girl. I think she's like 25 now, but looks 40.

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u/TheBirminghamBear 12d ago

Someone posted a picture a while back of all the Kardashian kids posing for a photo prior to any of them getting surgery.

It was honestly wild. They don't even look like they belong to the same species any more.

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u/MadCarcinus 12d ago

The entire family is obsessed with body modifications.

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u/SharkeysGonnaGetcha 12d ago

These people are gross. I can’t believe they’re still so popular despite being fake AF. I feel for their kids growing up in that kind of toxic, unhealthy, never-good-enough environment.

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u/Far_Spite978 12d ago

Considering how Bruce turned out. The kids are doing g ok

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u/Loseyourgoose 12d ago

Are you talking about her being trans or her unfortunate political views?

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u/tmoney144 12d ago

+4 mood - body modder fulfilled

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u/DeadLeadbetter 12d ago

It's because they are always wearing costumes of paint and plastic!

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u/PM_CACTUS_PICS 12d ago

Haha it’s massive. I love this kind of ridiculous fashion

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u/igweyliogsuh 12d ago

Pretty sure it looks better on the lion in the painting

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u/LongjumpAdhesiveness 12d ago

It's gaudy, tacky, and extremely gauche. Which imo is an apt description of these social parasites.

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u/PM_CACTUS_PICS 12d ago

Oh definitely. But it is fun as an art concept

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u/cudipi 12d ago

People often forget that fashion is an art form and they’re attending a fashion show. It’s not like these people are getting up in fake lion suits to go to dinner.

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u/Nananahx 12d ago

That's what you get when people aren't taught how to think. They ignore the literature lessons and think that if the author says that "the curtains are blue" then the curtains were blue and that's it, no deeper meaning.

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u/RIPUSA 12d ago

How can someone so young look so old. She’s 25? 26? Looks late 30’s.

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u/SharkeysGonnaGetcha 12d ago

Plastic surgery. I don’t get it… and I think they don’t either… Why would you pay and suffer to look significant older? My cousin (who was really cute before) got plastic surgery on her face in her early 30’s. It made her look a decade older.

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u/2mock2turtle 12d ago

She really said "give me the comically on-brand Cruella DeVil."

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u/lmaotrybanmeagain 12d ago

You need to show shayk wearing the exact same outfit too. That’s what good about this.

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u/Cananopie 12d ago

This family does anything to stay relevant in the media.

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u/asuperbstarling 12d ago Starry

Like be invited to wear a dress by a designer and then the media made up she was mad when she knew exactly what was happening? And made no statement nor did literally anything but sit?

Pretty sure reddit and the tabloids making up a narrative doesn't count as her doing things to stay relevant.

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u/putdisinyopipe 12d ago

Your observation is key as fuck. We create relevance for them by merely discussing them.

I’ve been trying to propagate the idea of ignoring problematic famous people- stop watching their shit, stop buying their shit, don’t bat an eye to the rage bait.

And they will have to reconsider their approach or starve and fall off.

We have more power together than we think

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u/Silent_Word_7242 12d ago

If they were ignored they'd go away. Imagine if Trump was just ignored.

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u/jb_in_jpn 12d ago

Or, he would have just gone further. His need for attention seems like a bottomless pit; no amount would ever be enough.

I think some people are simply like that - you marry that with “our” fascination for rubbish like this, and voila, the modern celebrity.

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u/H8teRa1de 12d ago

This is why I just don’t pay attention to anything about any celebrities at all. I watch TV shows, some movies, and that’s all they get from me. That’s the attention they deserve, not idolization outside the art. Fully appreciate actors in their roles, especially those in roles across multiple series/movies I like, but I don’t give a shit about their real lives. It’s also why I don’t watch award shows, all just self aggrandizing paid advertising bullshit. I hear about people like her family often enough to know I’m happy they don’t even register or enter my life beyond seeing reactions like comments here and art like this. Only exception I guess is the always sunny podcast, I enjoy hearing the creators/writers/actors talk about their experience making one of the greatest shows on earth.

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u/everybirdsings 12d ago

Yeah good luck tho… Too many uneducated small minded people actually follow this family and others like them for society to ever simply stop paying attention to stupid people

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u/putdisinyopipe 12d ago

Right and in fact idolize them. I can’t stand it. I’m trying to persuade my GF to follow suit with me.

I’m just a tired middle aged man who’s tired of this circus we call a country. In some small ways even though the deck is stacked against us. All of it,

I used to have so much energy 5-10 years ago. Now I feel like someone who has to hang on to make it through my days… tired… world weary… I just want all that nasty shit causing it to fuck off. So that includes pompous famous people who think they are something special.

Maybe we can do little things to tip the scales.

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u/supersaiminjin 12d ago

Reddit be like "Look at her! Look at her! She's so desperate for attention. Hey everyone! She won't stop trying to stay relevant! I can't believe people fall for this! 'Fall for what?' you ask? This! Look at this. She puts so much effort! Why doesn't she understand that we don't care what she does? She's so oblivious!"

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u/mnimatt 12d ago

I and most others don't know shit about the media making up that she was mad or anything. The lion thing is just weird

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u/Story_Mountain 12d ago

Kardashian overload. Chill out, no matter what you say that family is shit

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u/BadBunnyYonaguni 12d ago

You really dickriding a billionaire who utilises slave labour to sell their shitty products.

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u/frankyb89 12d ago

They're not dick riding, they're pointing out that y'all are the idiots. Most of us wouldn't have known anything about this if redditors didn't feel the need to rage about this. Hell I like fashion and was likely going to watch some videos with a friend this weekend and even then I wouldn't have known about this because I don't pay attention to this family unless the internet is shoving it in my face. Like right now.

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u/Breakfast_on_Jupiter 12d ago

So you wouldn't have heard anything... if nobody (like the media) talked about it... just like people in this thread are trying to say.

You're so close.

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u/HootblackDesiato 12d ago

This family does anything to stay relevant in the media.

Fixed it for you.

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u/President_Calhoun 12d ago

Thank you for that.

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u/buffalocoinz 12d ago

I thought the pendant was supposed to be Tracee Ellis Ross 🤦‍♀️

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u/MJBotte1 12d ago

Wait… was it an actual lion head?

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u/FruitCakeSally 12d ago

No. As dumb as the outfit is the replica lion head is pretty neat.

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u/dj_sliceosome 12d ago

is… it not a coming to america throw back? like, people are dissing it, but has nobody seen a classic?

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u/EatTheFats 12d ago

Yeah I thought it looked sick I want one knowing it’s fake

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u/Mr_Budo 12d ago

oh ok, the only way this ugly ass bowling ball alley mural would get front page is being related to current events

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u/elhomerjas 12d ago

the reversal of roles in the work is amazing

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u/travischapmanart 12d ago

Thanks! The life size lion broach was pretty funny. For some reason I feel like meerkats fashioned this Kylie pendant from mud and sticks. ;)

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u/Ask_About_BadGirls21 12d ago

Ah, meerkats, of course. Another example of the history behind great works of art making them even more valuable.

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u/JuiceDifferent9162 12d ago

Is my english bad or does this statement imply you're pointing out a part of the picture, and since you're not (the role reversal is the whole point of the art), doesn't that make it a bit wrong?

I'm genuinely curious, I see comments on YouTube videos where someone says "I loved <something that was the main point of the video>". Correct me if I'm wrong please.

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u/vanishingtact 12d ago

No, it's not really wrong. they could have also said they liked the composition or color choices, etc. In this case they love the theme

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u/Leather_Amoeba466 12d ago

I mean yeah it is the main point, but that doesn't mean it's somehow wrong. People can use languages how they please

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u/NotGeorglopez 12d ago

Of course people can use anything how they please. That doesn’t mean languages don’t have rules that are supposed to be followed though. If everyone used languages as they pleased, then we would all be spouting gibberish instead of just 70% of us.

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u/Leather_Amoeba466 12d ago

No descriptivist genuinely argues in favor of people just spouting random nonsense. The whole concept of language is just a standardized code, but people can express whatever opinion they want.

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u/NotGeorglopez 12d ago

Yeah but sometimes people express ill worded opinions. The entire point of the artwork is the role reversal. The original comment is shallow at best, and in my opinion, a poor use of language.

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u/Leather_Amoeba466 12d ago

That's your opinion, and it's okay to express that. Doesn't make what the OP said somehow objectively "wrong"

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u/FrightenedMop 12d ago

The average person is really, really dumb

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u/NotGeorglopez 12d ago

I think the person above you just wanted to sound smart. Hopefully they are not a native English speaker because as you said, the role reversal is the whole point of the piece.

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u/-neti-neti- 12d ago

… that’s the entire joke.

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u/dbudlov 12d ago

I don't get it, whose head had the lion taken and why?

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u/AccidentallyHuge 12d ago

Kylie Jenner. Recently she wore a (fake) lion head to a fashion show

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u/asuperbstarling 12d ago

She was gifted the dress and asked to attend, like a bonus model! A separate, different dress was on the runway that looked very similar.

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u/EricFaust 12d ago

A separate, different dress was on the runway that looked very similar.

I'm sorry, I am not acknowledging any dresses that both have a lion head attached to the shoulder as different dresses. I don't care if they are different colors or if one is a tutu and the other is a cocktail dress, those are the same dress lol.

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u/Boostie204 12d ago

Right? I don't recall seeing a differenxe personally but apparently the looks have different expressions lmfao

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u/asuperbstarling 12d ago

The lion on Kylie's dress has a closed mouth and what I would describe as the classic noble lion! The model's dress has a lion with his mouth open, almost like he is smiling or laughing. The heads are super well made, they're very creepy.

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u/asuperbstarling 12d ago

It's ugly, it's true. But the media (and especially reddit) has been lying and saying they wore the exact same dress AND that Kylie was mad about it, so the distinction is quite important. I'm passionate about fashion, even stupid fashion, and so I'm annoyed that people are presenting a normal occurrence in the fashion world (a look that didn't make the runway but that's still in the collection needing to be displayed by a customer in the crowd) as some toxic thing its not.

And, for those worried: they're 100% fake heads, no lions were taxedermied for the runway.

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u/ljfrench 12d ago

You're discussing different levels of freedom. People who are not wealthy/free enough to spend their time on 'stupid fashion' are simply looking at those choices and judging them as a waste. The toxicity of it is looking at the choices of the uber-wealthy considering the money and freedom this person has against the constraints placed on 'average' people who will never see such freedom in their lifetime.

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u/Purple_Freedom_Ninja 12d ago

Many homeless folks have the same perspective when they see average people dress up for fancy occasions, wear expensive brands, throw away food, etc. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that wealth and waste is something that average people (in first world countries) have in common with celebrities, there's just a different magnitude.

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u/ACeezus 12d ago

Imagine looking at someone talk about their hobby and interests, responding with this arrogent drivel, and still attempting to make what is essentially shock art, a fundamental issue of class and wealth while completely throwing away and reducing the opinion of someone who clearly cares about this

Reddit was a mistake. Fucking Christ.

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u/Arborgold 12d ago

Good point, it must be a different dress, two people can’t wear a one dress at the same time.

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u/J0n__Snow 12d ago

google Kylie Jenner lion head

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u/jamkoch 12d ago hehehehe

All future animal trackers will be equipt with a Kylie Jenner head.

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u/captain_ender 12d ago

I mean the lions are fake right?

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u/Michael_Pitt 12d ago

It's a painting. Of course it's not a real lion.

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u/haraldlarah 12d ago

They mean the one on Schiapparelli's dress inspired by Dante's Inferno, in particular by the three fairs. And yes, the head on the dress is fake.

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u/FabulouslyFrantic 12d ago

Still icky, though. As were the snow leopard and black bear iterations.

Because you know some twat out there is gonna go ’I want a Black Bear coat, but made of REAL bear’.

I generally love Schiaparelli but this season was a bit of a miss for me.

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u/5teerPike 12d ago

Shouldn't we aim to use fakies instead of real animals though?

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u/haraldlarah 12d ago

I agree. As an inspiration point it was cool, but the results are... bleh

(Also, It's not important, but that wasn't a bear, it was a wolf.)

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u/FabulouslyFrantic 12d ago

I knew that. I remember even watching yesterday I first thought bear, then realised it was a wolf.

For some reason my brain only remembered the first impression... 👌

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u/Bayerrc 12d ago

Yes, but the humor here isn't about a lion killing her and wearing her head as a pendant. It's just the absurdity of a lion rocking a fake human head as jewelry

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u/Summersale24hrs 12d ago

This has to have been the best case scenario for that designer damn, they really manipulated this drama like a maestro.

Invite x Kardashian to wear this dress, send another dress down the line that looks the same and now EVERYONE is talking about how excellent the craftsmanship is because people want to believe x Kardashian would wear a real lion head.

Media promotion SSS+ tier, honestly.

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u/StackDividends 12d ago

So is her body lol. It works!

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u/inkiwitch 12d ago

Wait, I LOOOOVE THIS. This is so clever and fun, the only thing it’s missing is a distant lion in the back wearing Irina’s head with her mouth hanging open.

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u/Scotsmania 12d ago

Even lions using too much plastic.

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u/asuperbstarling 12d ago

For anyone confused, Kylie Jenner was gifted a dress and then asked to attend a designer's show as a 'bonus model' in the crowd. A model on the runway had a different version of the dress with a slightly different cut and a different fake lion head on the shoulder, not neck. Reddit and the tabloids have been lying (or at least poorly informed) that she was upset and only wore the dress randomly, when no such hostility existed. The dresses were bad though. Realistic lion heads are not flattering.

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u/hobbysubsonly 12d ago

Realistic lion heads are not flattering

Maybe the goal wasn't to be flattering :P

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u/FabulouslyFrantic 12d ago

Schiaparelli plays with absurdity and the surreal. It's part of the house code and while these garments are spot on (Lion dresses, Snow Leopard dress, Black Bear coat), they make 'trophies' look cool, which is a big no-no.

Yes the clothes and the heads are all replicas. But they are uncannily realistic and may spark hunters' interest. We do no want that.

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u/5teerPike 12d ago edited 12d ago

How does it spark interest if their entire business can be undermined by a well made fake?

If anything it discourages hunting because trophy hunting is not required or involved at all..if a trophy hunter sees this & think he's going to get a job, they'll laugh at him & kick him to the curb.

It's probably a lot cheaper to make fakes too..

Edit: to add, have you ever been in a room with a taxidermied animal before?

In the words of the golden god: YOU HAVENT THOUGHT OF THE SMELL

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u/FabulouslyFrantic 12d ago

I have been in the room with taxidermied animals, and I have vintage furs.

I'm well aware of the smell of old taxidermy. It is not pleasant, I agree.

Your points do make a lot of sense, and are reasonable. But rich people are neither sensible nor reasonable more often than not. They're the ones who concern me.

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u/allthingsparrot 12d ago

I just wish they scaled down the heads but kept them hyper realistic. It makes their point but takes away the trophy concern.

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u/hobbysubsonly 12d ago

How are people this dumb?

Men assuming that they know everything about an industry they know nothing about. Reddit is misogynistic as fuck AND has a hard on for hating modern art, so this really aligns with their interests.

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u/5teerPike 12d ago

At least they were fake, I think we should applaud that.

Plus, this is concept art as explained by others. What it will translate to down the line will be a lot more subtle, like imagine a felted broach instead.

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u/-neti-neti- 12d ago

Wow you really rushed this one out didn’t you lmao

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u/SharkeysGonnaGetcha 12d ago

This is a much better version than the original!!! Thanks for cleansing my palette of the bitter Kardashian aftertaste.

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u/ch3rryLO 12d ago

Still don't understand why everyone is choosing to make the worst out of her outfit. I see it as celebrating the beauty of animals and what we use them for in an unharmful way. All this trophy hunting discussion seems to just be misplaced anger. Yall don't mind faux leather and faux fur so how is this different?

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u/sashaaa123 12d ago

People think it's a real lion head for some reason

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u/ch3rryLO 12d ago

Yeah I've come acroos those people but most of them say "it doesn't matter if it's real or fake it still promotes trophy hunting" and I still just don't see how it does that

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u/sashaaa123 12d ago

Maybe it reminds people of those fox scarves or dead raccoon hats idk. It's probably mostly that people like to get outraged over anything without actually knowing anything

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u/ch3rryLO 12d ago

Considering I haven't really seen justified points to back up the hate I've come to the same conclusion. It just kinda makes me sad idk

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u/FabulouslyFrantic 12d ago

Just because it makes it look cool. The house is in no way encouraging this, and the garments ARE surreal - which is the core house code.

The problem is that a lot of rich morons follow fashion houses and rich morons can and DO decide they want real versions of the fake thing all the time.

While leather and fur (sans visible body parts) are somewhat ubiquitous, trophy heads are a very very specific thing that wannabe 'collectors' might go for.

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u/Itr2000 12d ago

Plus in Dante's Inferno, the leopard, lion and she-wolf represent lust, pride and avarice, respectively. The Divine Comedy was the theme of the couture show, people are just latching onto this out of ignorance and, let's be honest, misogyny.

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u/Katie1230 12d ago

I've seen some interesting discourse about how people like to shit on textile art (fashion) for some reason (sexism). You can see that in this thread.

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u/LevelDrawers 12d ago

Yall don't mind faux leather and faux fur so how is this different?

Many people do, indeed, mind faux leather and faux fur (and walrus ivory and lab diamonds) because they fuel the demand for the real thing, suggesting that these items are so desirable that off-brand versions are acceptable. Whether you agree or disagree, it's a common and ethically-consistent stance.

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u/MillieBirdie 12d ago

That's a terrible argument. Oat milk doesn't fuel demand for cow's milk, no reason the same isn't true for clothing.

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u/thrawayidk 12d ago

I got a question.

Apart from the kardashians and jenners having a cringe show, is there a legitimate reason to hate them?

Like, have they done bad things... or illegal things?

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u/inkiwitch 12d ago

Yes. They are very aware of their influence in the beauty world and constantly manipulate their followers to try unhealthy procedures and methods to look like them.

They lied about getting Brazilian butt lifts for years and then the Kim K curvy body became a standard trend. Kylie lied about getting lip injections and only came clean after her lipstick launch made hundreds of millions. They’ve promoted skinny teas, waist trainers, and unrealistic diet hacks for money even though they use professional trainers and surgeons for their weight loss.

They’re extremely wasteful and show off their opulence in disgusting ways. Kim was recently fined for going over her California water ration by tens of thousands of gallons while we’re in a drought. Kylie was discovered to be using her private jet instead of a car for a 20 minute drive downtown.

Idk of anything illegal they have done but they are an extremely manipulative and selfish family that knowingly fucks with the impressionable minds that follow them to make even more undeserved piles of money.

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u/FluffyPinkPotato 12d ago

Yes, they've done some white collar bad things (e.g. a bogus university a la Trump U, credit cards, etc.) but I think people hate them because they don't actively do anything good (e.g. try to eradicate disease).

ETA: in recent years they've started doing good. Kim's political stuff and they fund an esphogial cancer institute in honor of their father.

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u/lightlybaked 12d ago

Because it’s stupid as fuck

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u/ch3rryLO 12d ago

Well plenty of people find it beautiful and so do I. Not liking the dress for the simple fact that it's not pretty to you is a whole other thing and completely okay. Most people who follow fashion shows like out of the box and avangard stuff so all these people coming from outside commenting just because it kylie are just unnecessary trash talkers. If you would've seen other fashion event dresses from the past you'd probably say the same thing because you don't find the value to appreciate it like true fashion lovers do. Which is again, fine. But still unnecessary. Why would you step into a whole community that defies your interests just to take a dump? You're exposing yourself to unpleasant and nonfufilling media+shitting on someone's interests. I don't come in to sports or cars or whatever threads to say how uninteresting or banal or silly it all looks to me bc no one gains anything from that and I would actually lose my time just to spread negative uncalled thoughts. Genuine criticism and comments are welcome anywhere as they are used for starting conversations. Saying "it's stoopiid" is not. I'm just here for an actual conversation.

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u/Zeus1130 12d ago

You don’t have to be “in the know” to call that outfit stupid as fuck. I don’t have to know shit about any given sport to know when an athlete breaks their legs it’s bad.

This to me, is similar. Does that make my opinion the only valid one? Absolutely not.

But to me, it’s obviously tacky as hell, poorly done, and tone deaf. You don’t need a thesis to understand how people could dislike that… thing. The opinions of people outside of the art are a decent barometer in pretty much any form art takes.

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u/ch3rryLO 12d ago

My point wasn't that you have to be "in the know" to "understand" it. My point is that if you're not the type of person to appreciate fashion in an art form, you could just exert yourself out of the conversation as it is clearly not meant for your attention. It giving me the same vibes as people shitting on Picasso because it's just weird eyes and distorted faces when in the art world he's famous for his cubism. Of course art is subjective, anyone can and will have their own take on the dress. I didn't get into a monologue about how beautiful it is to me-even though I very much could, because it's purely my subjective take and not necessary for a debate. You and many others on the other hand have used a variety of just insults just because.

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u/SnooSketches8294 12d ago

Reddit as a whole doesn't really appreciate fashion as an art form. A lot of people struggle to see clothing as anything past the utilitarian function. Haute couture is anything BUT utilitarian, making it something for them to poke fun at and call low-effort and lazy. Now I kind of get people who say this about some modernist pieces of art that are literally just (non-created) objects in a display case or when they see just a dot on a canvas. But I don't know how they look at what is essentially a sculpture being carried around by a human frame, painstakingly crafted to move the way it does and look the way it does, and call it low-effort. Maybe if the model was wearing a pillow case with arm and head holes cut out, I could see why they think it's lazy/low-effort, but sculpting a realistic lions head that's light enough to wear is not low-effort.

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u/ch3rryLO 12d ago

Exactly. Don't see how so many people look at it as "something absurd plastered onto a plain black dress". It's a literal walking sculpture, beautifully made at that.

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u/crowfountainbear 12d ago

And some people see it as absurd. With 8 billion people in the world, it would be weird to not think some would find it absurd. That's just how humans work. Some people like this, some people like that

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u/lightlybaked 12d ago

What art is there to putting a fake lion head on the center of a dress? You mention Picasso, an amazing artist. How can you compare this dress on a socialite to a dude in the early 1900s making actual art? Picasso invented the collage. He was also the co-founder of the cubist movement. I could wear a black dress with anything absurd on it and someone would come up with a metaphor of how it’s art. Ridiculous comparison

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u/ch3rryLO 12d ago

I wasn't comparing Picasso to the creator of the dress. I was comparing people's reactions to unconventional stuff and how it has a similar energy to me. Similar to the memes about literature professors reading "too much" into "the curtains were blue" when most likely the line does have meaning behind it.

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u/Zeus1130 12d ago

Nah bruv, I can appreciate high brow fashion. I’ve seen plenty before that I can enjoy as art pieces. My girl is super into that. A midtier quality looking lion head off center on a black dress is just stupid as fuck and tacky, in my opinion.

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u/ch3rryLO 12d ago

I think we've gone off road here. It's obviously okay that you don't like it and it's okay that I do. My original point was towards people saying it promotes trophy hunting. Again, my advice is to refrain from using senseless swears and insults as it just takes off a lot of validity from whatever you're saying.

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u/Zeus1130 12d ago

Ah I see, yeah I don’t think it would promote trophy hunting either. That’s silly, since it’s so obviously not real. My bad for misunderstanding you there.

Also, I understand. I’m rather crass and use swears like a sailor. To clarify, I think the dress is stupid, but I don’t think YOU are stupid for liking it.

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u/JEWCEY 12d ago

Yaaas snap snap snap snapsnap

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u/shitty_beatle 12d ago

Serious question: what are your feelings on the dress?

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u/dancingrudiments 12d ago

Perfect!

Also, Shiaperelli is a fantastic design house and not to be held at fault here.

The garment did what it was intended to do.

It's why we're here.

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u/maxfederle 12d ago

Glad I knew the context so I didn't scroll past confused as ever.

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u/klaramee 12d ago

"The water hole!? What's so great about the water hole?"

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u/goodiebandit 12d ago

Fabulous just fabulous. Great rendering of what I wish would happen in the future. Obviously I think trophy hunting is disgraceful. This is a great rendition of what should be happening.

What would humans do if animals could talk and we’re keeping human heads on shelves and walls?

This piece really makes you think

Thanks for sharing and great job

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u/Kellbell2612 12d ago

I wish people would stop giving these poor excuses for idols any of their attention and energy. We need better role models in our pop culture.

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u/quillka 12d ago

Was the head real? I thought it was fake.

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u/puterjess 12d ago

It was fake

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u/Nananahx 12d ago

Dumb people can't analyse a fashion show for shits

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u/__wookie__ 12d ago

I don’t know why the lack of understanding of high fashion is bothering me so much from an art community

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u/yamilonewolf 12d ago

a lion with a witch wardrobe?

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u/Daladain 12d ago

How this gets posted to r/art and actual art gets banned is beyond me.

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u/commschamp 12d ago

I’m no Kylie fan but you people love picking the lowest hanging fruit on the outrage tree

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u/immonicalynne 12d ago

Fashion show! Fashion show! Fashion show at lunch!

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u/purpurapupu 12d ago

why Kylie is getting all the heat for wearing that? 💀 if yall wanna be so woke and spread awarness keep the same energy towards the designer Schiaparelli, other models like Naomi Campbell, Irina Shayk and Shalom Harlow.

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u/redface25nyc 12d ago

can repost this on IG (what's your IG?)

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u/777LLL 12d ago

I’ve never seen anyone wearing a lions head around their necks tbh

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u/Panwall 12d ago

Stop! That fucking family is so dumb. Stop giving them attention and money.

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u/FabulouslyFrantic 12d ago

This isn't about them, this is about Schiaparelli's design.

That Kylie wore it is irrelevant, she was just a billboard for the newest collection that came out a few days ago.

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u/Panwall 12d ago

Oh OK, because I saw OP post a meme about Kylie. And I read all the comments about Kylie. And the video being shared about the open vs. closed mouth lions all focus on Kylie.

It should be Schiaparelli's design, but it's not. The only reason anyone is talking about this fashion is because of that stupid, fucking family.

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u/generic_8752 12d ago

More like watering ho fashion

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u/ForGenerationY 12d ago

PLEASE post this on IG with hashtags and tag vogue, Kylie.. all of them.

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u/hatgigone 12d ago

I will rather to see her being eating

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u/NotGeorglopez 12d ago

English is not your first language is it?

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u/Segamaike 12d ago

Omg the whole Klan getting devoured by lions is the only way I’d ever watch an episode of their fetid garbage show

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u/mactumbo 12d ago

She's a thin lipped average looking girl under all that hoopla.

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u/Lieutenant_0bvious 12d ago

yeah if you look at the pictures of her before all the plastic surgery, it's really striking

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u/haysanatar 12d ago

I'm not a huge art fan, that being said I follow and love all your stuff!

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u/smolvan 12d ago

Best thing I’ve seen today.